 dogs and kids
#90284 - 11/24/2005 03:51 PM |
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Kids and dogs.
I am quite irritated about kids that comes from nowere,and,just assume that they can pet my dogs.
Often the parents do not seem to care.
Kids that come from nowere and goes forward without asking to pet the dog,i just ignore and keep on walking with my dogs.It works.
It seems many kids,often they got dogs at home them selves,think it is ok to go and pet any dog.
Quite dangerous,some day they try to pet the wrong dog..
A person that owned to amstaffs were out one day with his dogs.The parent said  h look,dogs!, and sent their kids to the dogs,.The dog owner said it was lucky it was his dogs that was so friendly.But he did not like what the parent did.When the mother asked what breed the dogs were,he said:PITBULL.
The mother grabbed her kids and walked away very fast,without a word. ; )
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#90285 - 11/24/2005 04:22 PM |
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Helena,
This has happened to me a lot and your right this is very dangerous. I have to be really careful when out with my dog, although he is pretty well trained, he is not a dog to have around kids. When parents and kids are told "please don't pet the dog" one would think that would be enough to stop the kid from coming any closer. But most don't respect what the dog handler is saying and try to come closer to touch the dog anyway.
I've even pet a vet on my dog stating "dog in training DO NOT PET". If they still try I just say in as nice but as firm a voice as possible "STOP THE DOG IS BEING TRAIN AND MAY BITE STAY BACK"
I normally dont' have kids or parents continue after that statement. Usually get a dirty look though <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" />
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#90286 - 11/24/2005 11:07 PM |
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the best way to handle this situation is to use it as an opportunity to train the children about the right way to approach a strange dog.
i say to the children, "do you know how to behave with strange dogs?"
usually they just stare at me wide-eyed, but no matter how they respond, i give them the drill.
"what's the first thing you do when you see a dog you don't know?"
"you ask his owner if it is ok for you to pet him. always ask. if the owner says OK, then you can hold out your hand like this to let the dog sniff you first and get used to you. and then if the dog is friendly, you can pet him here, but don't put your hand over his head."
then i demonstrate with my dog.
this should be a program in all schools, imo. maybe some of you want to volunteer to go into the schools with your dogs and do a presentation on dog safety? might avert a tragedy or two.
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#90287 - 11/25/2005 02:48 AM |
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I think that this is a great idea Alice. I have many children that have wanted to pet my dog, but I usually respond with, "I'm sorry but he is not a friendly dog, its best to ignore him". I like your approach of educating the children because obvioulsy their parents do not.
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#90288 - 11/25/2005 05:50 AM |
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I hope that none think that my dog does not get along with kids.He LOVES kids!
But he meets the,m only under very controlled forms.He can easily nock a child to the ground without realizing it.
Here is picsa on his breeder and my friend Linda and her son,with my dog.
http://www.zoonen.com/perzoonen/galleri.asp?oid=402811&gid=492115
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#90289 - 11/25/2005 06:58 AM |
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Granted, every one has made a good points, or have they? I am missing something here, “the purpose of a well-trained dog”- is it not to protect the weak (children and the aged) from any potential aggressor –not so. Then why, do people still insist on “Mad Cow Disease” – why do they want dogs that cannot mix with the weak, to fill the gap, and mingle with their family, without any concerns? This is like having a rattlesnake around to protect your property, good for the ego, but it does nothing for the logic, especially with the family over – its nuts. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
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#90290 - 11/25/2005 08:08 AM |
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maybe some of you want to volunteer to go into the schools with your dogs and do a presentation on dog safety?
That's exactly what I do. I have 6 schools in the local area (one in Detroit) where I take my dogs and do demonstations and presentations on dog safety. It's amazing how fearfull ome of the kids are of certain breeds (GSD's, dobes) and not of others. I take my girlfriends border collie mix, one of my shepherds and a friends doberman to the presentation. My dog and my g.f.'s are bite trained, but the dobe is not. The GSD of mine that I take will not react at all to an agitator untill commanded. She'll stare at them hard, but no outward signs that would scare a child (barking, lunging, growling, etc.). So they get to see that only the 'friendly' looking dog freaks out and that the two 'scary' breeds just stand there. Makes for a nice underlying theme of not judging appearances as well.
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#90291 - 11/25/2005 08:19 AM |
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Makes for a nice underlying theme of not judging appearances as well.
Very true Ian. We do some demos with the dogs here and try some educating to large crowds of spectators while we are doing so. The kids and parents see that the sheps are fine and not vicious, we show the obedience, retrieving, some trick work ( zig-zagging thro handlers legs, dogs walking backwards etc)in a fun way. The parents and kids love it UNTIL........we bring the same dogs out to do the bitework demo and all kids are grabbed up in parents arms as the dogs leave the demo area after the display. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" /> These are the same dogs that the kids were around 1/2hr before hand and all was fine. Sometimes its not just the kids need educating round the dogs but also the parents. A lot of parents i notice put the fear into the kids by acting this way. Pity, but Im afraid its always going to be that way <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />
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#90292 - 11/25/2005 08:54 AM |
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I think that parents seems to lack the ability to teatch their children about dogs.
My dogs are good with kids,but how a parent can send a kid to a dog without knowing that dog,i do not understand.
Maybe they do not hear about the incidents with dogs biting kids..
I had problems with some kids that totally lacked disicline.They cursed at their parents,and were out of controle.These kids would walk behind people walking their dogs,and make sounds like cats and dogs.
I had enaugh of it one day.It did not work talking to these kids,i unleashed my dog,Natt the boerboel,grabbed hold of the collar,turned around and walked to wards them:would you like to say hallo to my dog? i asked.
My dog growled and wagged her tail high,she did not like them teasing us like that.
-No they said,and disappeared.
They kept harassing other dog owners after that incident,but me and the dogs were left alone.
We moved away and after that i only have met nice kids.They often ask and they do not harass dogs,they only want to pet them.
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#90293 - 11/25/2005 11:35 AM |
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What a really great idea about going into the schools with the dogs. Most parents and almost all the kids I see on the streets are just plain dog stupid,and this is dangerous. When I had my Dobie people would cross to the other side of the street to avoid us, that alway made me laugh, cause he was so gentle.
Not so with the dog I have now he is a mix breed all black and has a cute face. But looks can be deceiving, he is trained but I would never leave him with kids or let strange kid walk up and pet him. He has high drive and is 80 pounds power, although very smart and uncontrol will do what he is told.
Just not a good idea for kids to come running up to pet.
Could you PM me I'd like more imfo. about the schools, don't believe there is anything even close to that around here.
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