Hi everyone. Just saw the show for the first time over Thanksgiving. I've done a search on this board and think I've read everything already posted about Cesar Milan.

Do you guys know if he leaves that huge pack together 24/7? Or does he have them separated over night? How does he manage them all in that huge pack? Are there dogs that he can't integrate into the pack?

Not that I will attempt to try this at home <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

thanks.

roz.

He does have sleeping kennels; some sleep separately, but not all.

His facility is NOT anything that "normal" people could ever do at home; you are right about that. He is the pack leader, and they are ALL number two, as he says.

I'm not expressing my own uneducated opinion: I'm repeating what I have heard Cesar Millan say at seminars and at his facility.

He DOES feed them all together (that is, one at a time, the most calm and controlled dog getting fed first while others wait, and so on down the line, until the last group gets fed in a row). At least, I saw him do that and I assumed it was a regular occurence because it was so casual and practiced.

Daddy, the Pit he often uses to help rehab an aggressive dog, took him months to rehabilitate, he has said. Now, Daddy is an example, if you will, for unrehabilitated dogs he takes on.

If you have read all that this forum has said, then you know he has been covered and then some!

I'm a huge fan (one of zillions), and if you are interested in more, I'd recommend that you watch all the episodes on National Geographic, get his new DVD about dog psychology/pack structure, and know that he is now working on the new season of episodes for early '06. Also, his first book (there is a fake on the web.....not really him) is due out in April '06. And finally, the 2004 season (rerunning now) is being made into a DVD.

Thanks Connie.
I just did another search with the spelling Millan - two L's and came up with some more stuff. Maybe my questions have already been answered. Thanks for the PM too.

My husband and I watched the shows on Friday (several were back to back). Our inside joke has always been - people just need to beat their dogs more. Not that we beat our dogs! We mean discipline. And that dogs are not people. Nice to see a show reflecting the same sentiments.

roz.

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...I just did another search with the spelling Millan - two L's and came up with some more stuff.

http://www.leerburg.com/ubbthreads/showf...rue#Post4152707

http://www.leerburg.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/130334/page/0/fpart/1/vc/1

http://www.leerburg.com/ubbthreads/showf...rue#Post4148220

I taught my dog the loose leash walking per Ed's videos, but I am wondering from exploring Cesar's techniques (and the woman who wrote a similar book with similar techniques) if I should adjust this to keep the dog at my side in an informal heel at all times?

Any thoughts? I think I still have a lot of issues with my dog. We cannot walk in close vicinity to people or dogs without him pulling towards them and having to give prong corrections. Unless I go to a busy area where there are a lot of people. Then he could care less, but if we are walking down the street and there is just one or two people in our path he pulls toward them.

In general, I think I spoil the dog too much and give him too much affection - (I have posted about him getting all worked up when I leave the house in the mornings and come home at night).

I seem to remember someone saying that a walk should not be in heel the whole time because it is supposed to be a leisure activity for the dog - not an obedience exercise.

He goes on extensive walk/hikes in the hills or in large park where I allow him to run free as long as no-one is around and then I put him on leash.

He has gotten worse with the loose leash. He does it but he breaks it every 5 minutes or so so I constantly have to correct him and give him the command again.

I have a very similar problem with my 100lb GSD. I too am torn with my need to show affection to this bull headed handful. When I do Schutzhund OB with him, he knows it's all work and he gives me great focus and attention. The rest of the time he is "off the job" and has a wonderful time running around the house, up and down stairs scaring the bejabbers out of me when I am using them too. I know that I am the blame for all of his behavior and that I am too soft and emotionally involved with this dog. I really do know because I have attended Cesar's seminar in LA and did a follow-up with his disciple, Cheri Lucas who heads up The Second Chance for Love, Humane Society organization in Templeton, CA. Cheri is coming to my house next week and Ingo and I are going to do a one on one training session with her.

To my credit I have used what I learned from Cesar and Cheri on my other GSD and we have the calm, assertive, I am the pack leader thing down pat. So there is hope or I shall have to buy a parachute when using the stairs.

I train on our walks, sits, downs, automatic sits, stays, heel... then after 5 or 6 minutes I'll tell him go play, n he can go poop, mark his spot, sniff the grass, do what he wants. If I say "c'mon" he needs to stop sniffing the grass n keep walking, but not neccesarily in a heel. After free time's over I go back to heeling, sit, stay, walk 50ft, call him... act very excited and make training fun so even his heeling part of his walk is fun and varied. It's no fun having to go for a 45 minute walk past all these grassy smells and having to heel perfectly the whole time - I let him run ahead, walk behind, sniff, do whatever it is that he wants when it's his play time, as long as he keeps moving.

I am interested in what Ed Frawley thinks of Cesar Milan. I saw the show for the first time last night and I didn't know what to think of this guy.

Scott,

Ed previously posted that he liked the guy.

Heres the link to the post.

http://www.leerburg.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/3889502/page/0/fpart/1/vc/1

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I train on our walks, sits, downs, automatic sits, stays, heel... then after 5 or 6 minutes I'll tell him go play,

This is exactly what I do. The dog is not allowed to pull me (ever), but he is released from heel often to do dog stuff.

For me, the main point is that he can have fun times and do his sniffing and stuff ----- but always on my terms.