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Curtis Knappenberger wrote 12/10/2005 05:00 AM Belly band? #91853 - 12/10/2005 05:00 AM
Curtis Knappenberger Webboard User Reg: 04-01-2005 Posts: 130 Loc: Ramstein AB, Germany Offline
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Sammy Blondin wrote 12/10/2005 08:48 AM Re: Belly band? [Re: Curtis Knappenberger ] #91854 - 12/10/2005 08:48 AM
Sammy Blondin Webboard User Reg: 12-03-2002 Posts: 308 Loc: Offline	Looks like an e-collar around the waist. The muzzle work video of that dog is horrible! As is that of one of the other A'tim offspring they are trying to pimp. I am surprised they posted that.
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Kristen Cabe wrote 12/10/2005 09:36 AM Re: Belly band? [Re: Curtis Knappenberger ] #91855 - 12/10/2005 09:36 AM
Kristen Cabe Webboard User Reg: 06-09-2004 Posts: 738 Loc: Asheville, North Carolina Offline	Yes, it's an ecollar around the waist. I e-mailed the owner to ask about it and he said that's what it was. I don't remember why. PetIDtag.com Keep ID on your pet! Profits go to rescues in NC
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Ivan Sarac wrote 12/10/2005 10:03 AM Re: Belly band? [Re: Kristen Cabe ] #91856 - 12/10/2005 10:03 AM
Ivan Sarac Webboard User Reg: 02-09-2004 Posts: 213 Loc: Croatia Offline	OMG, but is that ethical ?? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> Here we go again... v---- SARAC ph-wannabe.blogspot.com
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Dennis Jones wrote 12/10/2005 10:39 AM Re: Belly band? [Re: Ivan Sarac ] #91857 - 12/10/2005 10:39 AM
Dennis Jones Webboard User Reg: 06-13-2004 Posts: 3389 Loc: Richmond Va Offline	I talk to some of the guys at the club and was told it's used for dogs that have a problem with the out command
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Thomas Barriano wrote 12/10/2005 12:11 PM Re: Belly band? [Re: Dennis Jones ] #91858 - 12/10/2005 12:11 PM
Thomas Barriano Webboard User Reg: 02-18-2005 Posts: 87 Loc: Offline	Multiple E-collars, including belly bands are used (or should be) for direction NOT correction. Using an ecollar around the belly for out problems, makes no sense. It would be like putting a prong collar around the thigh to get the dog to out? Regards Thomas Barriano
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Curtis Knappenberger wrote 12/10/2005 02:59 PM Re: Belly band? [Re: Thomas Barriano ] #91859 - 12/10/2005 02:59 PM
Curtis Knappenberger Webboard User Reg: 04-01-2005 Posts: 130 Loc: Ramstein AB, Germany Offline	I am uneducated on this subject so I do not have an opinion on whether this is right or wrong. It does strike me as odd though to have it around the waist/groin area. I was impressed with the dogs in the videos, so they must have a good training program. I was confused about the muzzle training. It looked like they are trying to get the dog to target the crotch area? I don't know what that little square "target pad" area was but it was funny to see one of A'Tim's offspring getting mad because he had that muzzle on and couldn't bite. I am impressed with the control they have over the dogs. In this I mean the call off with the whistle. These dogs come in hard and fast and then at the last few steps hear that whistle. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> You know that has to build frustration. I guess it would be important to keep the call offs to a minimum. Thanks for the replies everyone. Curtis
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Dennis Jones wrote 12/10/2005 04:43 PM Re: Belly band? [Re: Sammy Blondin ] #91860 - 12/10/2005 04:43 PM
Dennis Jones Webboard User Reg: 06-13-2004 Posts: 3389 Loc: Richmond Va Offline	Sammy, I'm a total newb to dog sports but you sounded totaly rude. Do you have any vids of your dogs doing muzzle work? I've seen some at the club but it looked a bit different. Perhap you would show us what we sould be looking for.
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Khoi Pham wrote 12/10/2005 05:08 PM Re: Belly band? [Re: Dennis Jones ] #91861 - 12/10/2005 05:08 PM
Khoi Pham Webboard User Reg: 12-08-2003 Posts: 130 Loc: Texas Offline	I believed that it is for the object guard exercise, keeping the dog from going outside of the perimeter. Khoi Pham http://www.k9workingdogs.org
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Sammy Blondin wrote 12/10/2005 08:11 PM Re: Belly band? [Re: Dennis Jones ] #91862 - 12/10/2005 08:11 PM
Sammy Blondin Webboard User Reg: 12-03-2002 Posts: 308 Loc: Offline	It does not take a rocket scientist to see the guy having to throw and push the dog into the decoy... You would call that a good example of muzzle work?
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