 Re: Attacked My Husbands Inner Forearm HELP!!!
[Re: Will Rambeau ]
#189634 - 04/10/2008 10:30 AM |
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You don't think that working line GSDs are sharper than West German Showline GSDs? I've read a lot of Mr. Frawley's articles on this website and he seems to think that the working line dogs are bred to be superior in true police work and have the ability to be trained to do true police work where the West German showline GSDs have little ability to excel in true police work. Obviously not every puppy in a working class breeding litter will have the aptitude but some in the litters of working bred dogs will have the aptitude to train for true police work. That would constitute a "sharper" dog in my mind. Is this not correct?
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Re: Attacked My Husbands Inner Forearm HELP!!!
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I had one of my male pups hanging off my pant legs this AM and all I could think was "wow, look at that grip, look how calmly he is destroying my clothing.."
LOL Was it fat boy or red boy?
Fat boy, the calm one.......<eek>
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Re: Attacked My Husbands Inner Forearm HELP!!!
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#189638 - 04/10/2008 10:37 AM |
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That would constitute a "sharper" dog in my mind. Is this not correct?
Might be a definition problem here. Sharp means a lot of different things to a lot of people.
To me sharp or short nerved means that the dog is quick to react with a minimum amount of stimuli.
It is not really good or bad in itself, it is something that has to be taken into consideration when training a dog and what you train the dog for.
Annabelle is sharp. However I have no fear of her biting someone without a command or a real threat to me.
My white American Shepherd is weak nerved. He is a pussy cat, but he is probably the one that will bite someone out of fear.
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Re: Attacked My Husbands Inner Forearm HELP!!!
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#189640 - 04/10/2008 10:39 AM |
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That would constitute a "sharper" dog in my mind. Is this not correct?
A dog can excel at police work and not be a sharp dog. So no that is not correct. If I am not mistaken Ed has written definitions for these dog terms. You might want to search for them and read it.
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Re: Attacked My Husbands Inner Forearm HELP!!!
[Re: Betty Waldron ]
#189642 - 04/10/2008 10:46 AM |
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Betty,
Maybe you should invest in a couple of THESE to walk around in
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Re: Attacked My Husbands Inner Forearm HELP!!!
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#189645 - 04/10/2008 10:53 AM |
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Sharpness
The word sharpness is commonly misused and abused, to the extent that it creates a negative impression. Sharpness is a dog's constant readiness to react in a hostile manner to all real or imagined threats and stimuli. As trainers, when you analyze this statement, you'll quickly realize that too much sharpness is as undesirable as too little is. An "ideally sharp" dog is one that is far quicker to recognize and react to a REAL threat than one that may have too much or too little sharpness. In the German Shepherd, the medium ranges of sharpness are those most conductive to successful training results.
This is the definition of sharpness that I always go back to refer to. It is written in the context of Schutzhund, not PPD, but it seems it would hold true in a PPD too.
Just want to add the above was copied from another source -- it's not an Ed/Leerburg definition. Source of definition quoted above
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Re: Attacked My Husbands Inner Forearm HELP!!!
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#189647 - 04/10/2008 10:55 AM |
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I have owned field trial bred English Pointers, Weimaraners, Vizslas, Labradors and Goldens as well as show line Dobermans and West German line GSDs (currently I have an 11 year old Weimaraner, 3 year old Lab, 6 mos. old GSD and 4 mos. old Vizsla).
Just want to respectfully point out that owning many dogs of different breeds - whether "field trial bred" or not - does not develop the same level of training expertise as working them. I have learned the most - on this board and throughout my life - from folk who train for a serious working or competitive activity, and who know their chosen breeds really well. If you have trained your various pointing and retrieving breeds over the years to trial standards and competed with them, then kudos to you, and let's hear about it. However, anyone with enough money can buy well-bred dogs and just keep them around the place as pets.
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Re: Attacked My Husbands Inner Forearm HELP!!!
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#189649 - 04/10/2008 11:01 AM |
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Sharpness
The word sharpness is commonly misused and abused, to the extent that it creates a negative impression. Sharpness is a dog's constant readiness to react in a hostile manner to all real or imagined threats and stimuli. As trainers, when you analyze this statement, you'll quickly realize that too much sharpness is as undesirable as too little is. An "ideally sharp" dog is one that is far quicker to recognize and react to a REAL threat than one that may have too much or too little sharpness. In the German Shepherd, the medium ranges of sharpness are those most conductive to successful training results.
This is the definition of sharpness that I always go back to refer to. It is written in the context of Schutzhund, not PPD, but it seems it would hold true in a PPD too.
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Katie, thanks!
I need you to credit the text, preferably with a URL.
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Re: Attacked My Husbands Inner Forearm HELP!!!
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If you have trained your various pointing and retrieving breeds over the years to trial standards and competed with them, then kudos to you, and let's hear about it.
Ditto! I'm all for it too.
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Re: Attacked My Husbands Inner Forearm HELP!!!
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#189652 - 04/10/2008 11:04 AM |
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Thanks. That's a great definition.
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