Betty Waldron wrote 08/17/2011 04:48 PM Re: Marker Training it's not for me [Re: Connie Sutherland ] #341937 - 08/17/2011 04:48 PM
Betty Waldron Webboard User Reg: 07-11-2002 Posts: 2679 Loc: North Florida (Live Oak area) Offline	Well, I think we have established a couple of things. What he called marker training wasn't marker training as generally taught. He doesn't want to learn marker training. PEACE!!!! Oh, and most importantly I'm allowed to make this post because in Betty's Secret World I have won the BSP three times. Betty (Waldron) Mathena http://www.littlerivercanine.com
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steve strom wrote 08/17/2011 04:56 PM Re: Marker Training it's not for me [Re: Betty Waldron ] #341940 - 08/17/2011 04:56 PM
steve strom Webboard User Reg: 03-17-2006 Posts: 4203 Loc: Offline	Really? What years?
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Connie Sutherland wrote 08/17/2011 04:56 PM Re: Marker Training it's not for me [Re: Betty Waldron ] #341941 - 08/17/2011 04:56 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	What he called marker training wasn't marker training as generally taught. Yeah, that became apparent a while back. Still, it might be interesting to see what John IS dismissing as unsuccessful. Oh, and most importantly I'm allowed to make this post because in Betty's Secret World I have won the BSP three times. It got out of Betty's Secret World; I heard it on the (Secret) Street.
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Connie Sutherland wrote 08/17/2011 04:59 PM Re: Marker Training it's not for me [Re: Betty Waldron ] #341942 - 08/17/2011 04:59 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	Quote: john axe i'm no ed frawley but what do you think http://s644.photobucket.com/albums/uu162/john1955/?action=view&current=Picture1038.mp4 One of many important points: You are not marking! You're bribing the dog with food, too, which fully explains why the dog is not interested when you have no food.
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steve strom wrote 08/17/2011 05:01 PM Re: Marker Training it's not for me [Re: Betty Waldron ] #341943 - 08/17/2011 05:01 PM
steve strom Webboard User Reg: 03-17-2006 Posts: 4203 Loc: Offline	I don't think you marked anything. She's nice and attentive though. She can probably learn in spite of you. I couldnt tell if you were Ed or not. Maybe if someone else filmed you?
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Michael_Wise wrote 08/17/2011 05:02 PM Re: Marker Training it's not for me [Re: steve strom ] #341944 - 08/17/2011 05:02 PM
Michael_Wise Webboard User Reg: 07-10-2006 Posts: 4454 Loc: Arkansas Offline	I heard no markers.
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Michael_Wise wrote 08/17/2011 05:04 PM Re: Marker Training it's not for me [Re: Michael_Wise ] #341945 - 08/17/2011 05:04 PM
Michael_Wise Webboard User Reg: 07-10-2006 Posts: 4454 Loc: Arkansas Offline	having my dog bite my hands while I randomly give it treats its not for me
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Connie Sutherland wrote 08/17/2011 05:07 PM Re: Marker Training it's not for me [Re: Michael_Wise ] #341946 - 08/17/2011 05:07 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	Quote: Connie Sutherland You are not marking  Quote: steve strom I don't think you marked anything.  Quote: Michael_Wise I heard no markers. This is a big thing in marker training. Nice pup! I'd love to see her marker trained! Do you have any of the DVDs, and if so, which? Have you seen some free streaming video? (I ask because you mentioned seeing Michael Ellis and Cindy at least once, right?)
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Betty Waldron wrote 08/17/2011 05:18 PM Re: Marker Training it's not for me [Re: Connie Sutherland ] #341947 - 08/17/2011 05:18 PM
Betty Waldron Webboard User Reg: 07-11-2002 Posts: 2679 Loc: North Florida (Live Oak area) Offline	Several years ago when everyone seemed to be pushing clicker training I said several times I didn't need a clicker I could mark with my voice. Well one day I decided to try it. I loaded the clicker one night and the next day used it with heeling on my Pepper. O H M Y G O D The difference was so radical I had to really sit down and think long and hard about it. What I came up with is that my timing generally sucked and I was not making things black and white to her. I was not consistent. I was not even consistent with my release word. And did I mention my timing sucked? Just thought I would throw this in this thread. <grin> Betty (Waldron) Mathena http://www.littlerivercanine.com
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john axe wrote 08/17/2011 05:18 PM Re: Marker Training it's not for me [Re: Michael_Wise ] #341948 - 08/17/2011 05:18 PM
john axe Webboard User Reg: 05-13-2011 Posts: 330 Loc: IL. Offline	thanks steve i'm sure she can.most dogs do learn in spite of us . in that video i stopped using yes yes. cant stand it . i wasn't talking about ed's training i was talking about his filming lol that guy has been all over the world
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