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				I think the PI idea is a good one also. 
Something else, that most people don't realize, is that if they have a cell phone number, the police could force the cell company to tell them where that phone is. They know where a cell is via triangulation of the towers that the cell connects to. (assuming phone is turned on) I doubt the police will pressure the cell phone company. If it were a missing child, that would be a totally different matter.
 
I would also still try the DMV thing. What have you got to lose?
 
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				#177004 - 01/23/2008 03:41 PM | 
			
			
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				I have tried PIs, local and not local.  None of them would help despite having the money to pay for everything.  They just were not interested in my problem     Too busy to bother with lost dogs I got told by one guy.  I contacted all the places I could find and the consensus was the same.
 
I am quite unhappy at the moment.  I called this morning and left a message.  No return call.  So I just called again about half an hour ago, been on the phone ever since.
 
Apparently nothing has been put in my file about the sighting on Friday, or that an officer came out to get the pictures and that there is any address, the license plate number is not even in on record, anywhere.  She could not get ahold of either officer (the one I spoke to/saw Saturday or the officer originally in charge of the case) but left messages for both.
 
I tell you, if this ISN'T Cajun I'm going to have a melt down.								
				
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				#177010 - 01/23/2008 04:29 PM | 
			
			
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				Oh jeez Jennifer.     
Listen, you are quite the trooper, I'll tell you.  I would have already had a meltdown.  
 
First of all, about the PI thing, what the ----???  They're too busy?  What industry tells a would-be client "Nope, we're too busy for more business"?  So if it was a missing child they'd say the same thing?  I doubt it.  If it was a cheating spouse, maybe someone well known in the area, guaranteee they'd jump on that.  So at the end of the day, they're turning you down because you want help finding a dog?
 
What imbeciles.  Who gives a damn if they are being hired to find a bag of marshmallows!!  Money is money!  
 
Listen, Jennifer, if you really can't find a reputable PI, then I think you're left with two alternatives:
 
1)  Change tactics...physically go to the police department every day.  It's very easy for people to give very little on the phone.  Much harder to do with the person standing right there.  Make your dog matter to them.  I don't know how exactly...it depends on the personalities of these officers.  Tears might be effective for one but not another.  Logic might prevail on yet another.  Just go there and find out.
 
2)  You mentioned you had a friend who was a journalist.  If this is the case, I'd hire him/her to get your story in the paper. 
 
Of course, you want to be careful not to alienate the officers who are supposed to be doing something but at the same time, they don't appear to be doing a bloody thing - they haven't even jotted a license plate number down?  Not good.
 
Jennifer, be proactive!  You seem to be left with no other choice.								
				
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				#177011 - 01/23/2008 04:42 PM | 
			
			
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				Judy, I don't have any journalist friends, I think that was part of Daniel's suggestion.  I tried getting this story in the paper when Cajun was first taken, I contacted the local news papers and news stations and was either ignored or told I don't have a story.  There were some other details to that but I don't want to start an internet riot so I will refrain from mentioning at the moment. 
I have had really no luck with this, me and my posters and pictures and calling vets and animal control thats all, just me     and people, relatives and friends, keeping an eye out for him.  
 
There are not many PI companies here.  2 local and the rest were out of Portland or northern Cali.  I don't remember the names, it's been months since I contacted any of them.  The reason they said they had no time for a dog is that it would be all stakeout work and they don't have the manpower or time for that kind of surveillance.  To be fair only one guy told me that they don't have time for a dog but as you said, if it were a missing child they wouldn't have any problem.  
 
It's been frustrating.  The whole ordeal has been.  I'm really starting to lose my cool.  The more I think about it the worse I feel.
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				Jennifer 
Maybe you could get more information if you went to all the likely used car lots and asked about the guy in whatever car he had with the big barking dog. If he has filled out any paperwork you will have him.								
				
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				Hang in there.  As you know, nothing worthwhile is easy. 
Right now, you've got hope and help on your side.  And an army of people routing and praying for you and for Cajun's safe return.  
 
Listen, did you think about calling a local TV station again?  I know you said they didn't feel you have a story but maybe try again?  Maybe now that someone spotted him (possibly him) they feel that's enough of a twist to get a story? 
 
If you're not getting anywhere with the officers maybe there is an officer on the board here who will step in and make a phone call to them for you?  I don't know a single LEO but word on the street is that they help each other out     .  
 
Maybe another LEO calling on your behalf will get their attention?  You've spent a lot of time and energy helping everyone on this board, sharing your insightful posts, taking the time to educate others who are not as educated as you are on wolves, etc.  
 
It would be nice if an LEO on here could help you.  Just a thought.								
				
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				I  am  a  little  cautious  about  putting  a lot  of  pressure  on the  police.  most  police  are  decent  folk  who  have   their 'priorities'  dictated  by the  brass  above.  it   is  entirely  likely  that  IF  a  Police  officer has  run to  a  cold  lead  on the MV  license --  we  are  back  to  square  1.  telling  the  PD  that  you will  not  prosecute  is  sometimes also  a  cause  of   your  case  to go to the  bottom  of the  case  heap -- so  don't  ever  do  that 'up  front.'   Jen -- i  do  think  you  have enough  evidence  to  have   eliminated the  possibility  that  cajun 'jumped the  fence' --  e g  no  dog  hair  caught  on the  barb  wire,  no  previous  episodes of his random  fence-jumping --  and  dogs  just  dont  jump  fences  for  zero  reason. more  likely  is --  someone  bent  your gate  open  to  lure  cajun  out,  and  it  is  likely the  evildoer. There  is a  great  misconception  about  whether  the criminal  justice  system  will 'get  your  money  or  property  back.  the  objective  of the criminal  (DA-type ) prosecution is to  prove the  accused  committed  a  crime. if the  qccused is  convicted  of  a crime  the  police  usually  retain  the  stolen  goods  and turn  them  over  to the  rightful  owner.  if  the  police  cannot /do  not  obtain  a  conviction,  then    to  get  the stolen  goods  back you must    sue  in small  claims  court  (under  $25,000  is  a 'small  claim'  in  most  states -- Wow !) some  gentle  pressure  on  the  police -  a call every  few  DAYS  not  2x  a  day--  may  keep  your  case  at  the  fore  front.  get  your local friends  to scout the  car  dealer  and  see  if the  car  dealer  can tell  you  who w as  the  driver  of  the  car--  or  get  some  one  to  run  the  license plate....or  look  for  that  car  all  over  .. trailing  around near   the  house  of  the car-driver  might  lead  to  more  good  evidence  -- . good  luck,  my  heart  goes  out  to  you .								
				
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				Some cell phone companies have a number look up, you can type it in and see if a name pops up in connection with that number. 
Here it is pretty easy to narrow down which company the phone is connected to by the prefix.
								
				
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				I just talked to my husband and in oklahoma at least you can go to the department of transportation and have them run the tags and you get back name address etc. 
You might to find out if you can do that in oregon, walking into the police station with address, phone number, names etc might make it more likely that someone will go over and check it out.								
				
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				Hi  jen - a little  more  procedural  thought  here:well  i  recall  reading  homer's  iliad.homer   came  back  from the  wars  and  the  only  one  who  recognized  him  was  his  dog.  jen ,  if  you  think a  dog  is  cajun, call  him  to  you.  if  cajun  comes  running  to   you ,  get  ahold  of  him  and  then  CALL  THE  POLCIE  and hget  into an  intellectual    debate  with  the crook  who stole  him. seems  to  me  that  someone  either  STOLE  cajun  or  FOUND  cajun.  under  the  law,  the  one  and  only  TRUE  OWNER  has  rights  over  ANYONE  else   who  stole  found  or  bought  that  dog--including a 'bona fide  purchaser.'  so even  if  someone  says  I  BOUGHT  THAT  DOG-- under  the  law,     you  as  the  True  and Real  Owner  have  greater  rights  than  he/she. a  little  self  help  here--  you  see  a  Cajun-type  dog,  you  call CAJUN  COME  !!!,  if  that  dog  is  your  long  lost  you  will  know  it  and then  WITH  the  dog,  you  dont  leave  the  scene  ,  you   CALL  THE  POLICE  immediately,   telling the  officer  you  have  911  need  of  their  HELP  ASAP  to  recover  YOUR  rightful  stolen   property.. that  way  the  cops  are  on  your  side  asap  and  you  dont  get  into a  brawl  with  the  crook  who  took  cajun.....								
				
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