Re: Pack Leader or Predator
[Re: Lee Kelley ]
#241465 - 05/27/2009 11:58 AM
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I still think this entire thread is a better study of web discussion board dynamics than anything to do with dogs. As a brand-new member, how well did you think a controversial and contrary opinion stated in such authoritarian language would go over?
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Re: Pack Leader or Predator
[Re: Jo Harker ]
#241468 - 05/27/2009 12:00 PM
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Not sure if this applies but here is my eyewitness report on pack leader existence: I brought my Aussie over to a friend's house one time. "Tess" one of my friend's two Aussies established herself as the head of that group of three dogs in less than a minute. His other dog was #2... my dog was last in line. No question.
Call it a pack leader, call it head of the household.. call it whatever you want. It was very clear who was Top Dog that day.
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Re: Pack Leader or Predator
[Re: Tracy Collins ]
#241474 - 05/27/2009 12:08 PM
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I agree with you Tracy. When someone is pretending to be the smartest in the room, not everyone is going to believe it. We all express our skeptisim differently, but if Lee is going to play the waving game he's so fond of, his hand should have something in it.
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Re: Pack Leader or Predator
[Re: steve strom ]
#241478 - 05/27/2009 12:10 PM
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I agree with you Tracy. When someone is pretending to be the smartest in the room, not everyone is going to believe it. We all express our skeptisim differently, but if Lee is going to play the(dick) waving game he's so fond of, his hand should have something in it.
that was an awful mix metaphor
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Re: Pack Leader or Predator
[Re: Dennis Jones ]
#241514 - 05/27/2009 01:05 PM
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Oh!!!!
Good job Dennis. When I read Stevie's post I thought we were at a football game. Shame shame Stevie, you should be clearer.
Now then we all should have what in our hands?
Me? I'm to busy with the leash to hold on to anything else.
Bummer,
Randy
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Re: Pack Leader or Predator
[Re: randy allen ]
#241517 - 05/27/2009 01:18 PM
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Me? I'm to busy with the leash to hold on to anything else.
But how long is your leash?
Teagan!
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Re: Pack Leader or Predator
[Re: Jennifer Mullen ]
#241520 - 05/27/2009 01:23 PM
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Mmmmmm,
That seems to depend entirely on circumstances.
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Re: Pack Leader or Predator
[Re: Jennifer Mullen ]
#241521 - 05/27/2009 01:24 PM
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You tube yanked his video Jennifer. Waving it in a crowded room was found offensive by some.
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#241524 - 05/27/2009 01:32 PM
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Me? I'm to busy with the leash to hold on to anything else.
But how long is your leash?
I heard he uses a short patrol lead, you should see my long line
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Re: Pack Leader or Predator
[Re: Dennis Jones ]
#241526 - 05/27/2009 01:39 PM
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You tube yanked his video Jennifer. Waving it in a crowded room was found offensive by some.
Given the spatial relationship between man and dog, I hope no dogs are in the room when this goes on. Prey-drive......Ouch.
Me? I'm to busy with the leash to hold on to anything else.
But how long is your leash?
I heard he uses a short patrol lead, you should see my long line
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