Re: Gambit/coming around/diarrhea
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#333426 - 05/19/2011 04:17 PM |
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He has a new puppy collar.
Nick, please listen to the wisdom of these posters. They know what they are talking about.
It seems that you cannot see how you are shifting blame onto the puppy, "He did it for awhile but then ignored me." (he didn't ignore you, you failed to engage him sufficiently), "So yet another issue with this dog to watch for." (as the dog is responsible for contracting giardia). He is not responsible
You created this mess and you need to fix it. You weren't able to get your puppy the right sized collar without major help from the people on these boards, but you talk as if you are going to take this pup through some formal training process to title.
It is horrible to think of this poor puppy in the middle of this. The best solution you could think of for the collar situation was to take the puppy to the store. A sick puppy who doesn't have a collar.
And now the training thread has started and you continue to make ill-conceived decisions on the spur of the moment as if you know what you are doing. And then plead ignorance and ask for help.
Let's face it, you are not going to raise and train a PPD in a home with two small children. You have some misguided notion of a dog protecting your family, a dog that you are going to train (but you KNOW NOTHING) about the most basic elements of dog handling or dog care. This is why we hired someone to help us
If you want a dog that will bark at strangers, adopt a balanced, level-headed adult dog from the local shelter. That is what most dogs do, once they have bonded with their family and know where their home is. No I want more than a barking dog
Heck, put Jethro on your front porch. You won't need no PPD with him laying out there!
Please give this puppy a better chance at a good life than he has had so far! Give him to an experienced owner who can take care of him and love him for who he is, who doesn't see him as "another issue".
I don't rehome dogs. People are getting over excited about what I said in my venting post. I was upset about him eating something. He's doing much better around our home. He licks my kids and basically ignores them. I took him to a play ground with kids recently and he ignored them. All the screams ect. He wanted to just play tug.
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Re: Gambit/coming around/diarrhea
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#333429 - 05/19/2011 04:23 PM |
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"he was getting 1/4th and a half KB and half of 1/4th chicken. I added the rest of the KB to make a half of a cup. I plan to do this again today so we can be down to 5 feedings. Maybe in a week or two we can do 1 cup of food. "
How is the poop?
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Re: Gambit/coming around/diarrhea
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#333432 - 05/19/2011 04:31 PM |
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Giardia= not the dogs fault. Plus, symptoms don't include fever, see: http://www.cdc.gov/parasites/giardia/gen_info/faqs.html
Well said, all. Nothing more to add, just that I get the impression, Nick, that you already resent the puppy, even harbor some serious rage toward him (for getting sick, for biting, for licking your mouth (!), for not being perfect from the start).
If you keep him (and I have no doubt you will, just 'cause) step back, take a deep breath. And start enjoying him. Otherwise, what's the point? A dog is not always everything you hoped for (neither is a child, for that matter). I've learned to accept my dogs for what and who they are. If that means adjusting my expectations and/or training approach, so be it. But underneath it all, I treat my dogs fairly, with underlying love and respect. Know your dog, but more importantly, know yourself.
Good luck, little Gambit.
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Re: Gambit/coming around/diarrhea
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#333433 - 05/19/2011 04:34 PM |
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Nono I don't resent him at all.. He's my buddy!!! My wife has been pming Connie a bit. I think Connie knows we are trying VERY hard.
His poop is log poop. The med's and probiotic are helping
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Re: Gambit/coming around/diarrhea
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#333436 - 05/19/2011 04:40 PM |
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Has there been any pudding-poop in the last 3 days?
(I know that you know not to increase the kibble each time until you see the poop from the last increase.)
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Re: Gambit/coming around/diarrhea
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#333438 - 05/19/2011 04:41 PM |
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It is very likely this dog will have serious behavioral problems down the road that YOU will have created.
FYI.....the most important imprinting period of socialization for a pup is between 8 & 12 weeks of age...maybe 14 for somethings. This socialization includes bonding & trust. You've taught this puppy that you are not to be trusted & he 'fears' your touching him. YOU have taught him that. Good job! VERY SAD indeed.
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Re: Gambit/coming around/diarrhea
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no he's been fine. We are only increasing it by 1/4th and I even took a little out of that so I wouldn't upset him. He's gaining weight too. I'll weigh him tonight for you guys. I'll use our baby scale to do it so we get a very precise weight.
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Re: Gambit/coming around/diarrhea
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i dont have a working dog but i have had my share of doggy drama in my life, as long as you are willing to learn and learn from your mistakes, stay humble and take one day at t a time and dont let your insecurities run away with you and yes thats a big one you will be ok. hang in there and when it comes to vets or professionals ask questions dont take anything that comes out of there mouth as law until you understand why if a vet gives you a med ask whats it for bring a list of what questions to ask and what you expect and just have fun. dogs are a learning experience not only can you teach them but they can teach you alot. remember he is a baby what you see now is not going to be the dog he grows into you have a huge part in that. yes there are hints and clues but you have a long way to go and so does he.i have not said anything that has not been said before just chiming in that i agree with all thats been said you can do it.
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Re: Gambit/coming around/diarrhea
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Ashley thank you so much I'm trying so hard to do all that. I just with the people here would see that. Everyone is entitled to a bad day. Heck I had a bad hour with him. I came home and vented a bit. I went and meditated then relaxed. I value a fresh look on this because I think everyone has already made up there minds. Almost makes it a mute point to coming on here but I'm still doing it besides all the harsh comments.
I've slowed down a ton and that has helped me. I'm a very high strung guy it's just who I am. People that don't know me ay think I'm crazy or something. I'm not, I'm just excitable like a malinois. Our dog is pretty low key right now and I know that could change. Working on bonding now and It's going pretty well. We both have a ton to learn about each other. I think we both are willing and trying to do that. He won't leave my side if he's out of his kennel and off leash.
He now weighs 15.11
He has gained a pound and he's eating wellness puppy at $65 a bag. I've read Natural Nutrition for cats and dogs. I'm now reading RAW dog food by Macdonald.
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Re: Gambit/coming around/diarrhea
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#333455 - 05/19/2011 05:52 PM |
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" I've read Natural Nutrition for cats and dogs. I'm now reading RAW dog food by Macdonald."
Feeding raw is something I'm hugely in favor of, but not for this pup YET.
Much of the raw diet is informed by the dog's poop and weight maintenance, etc. --- areas that are affected too much by giardia to be reliable yet.
He has to be clear of giardia and have a history of perfect poops as well as steady weight gain before he can be switched to raw.
In fact, even a switch in kibble shouldn't be done at this point, IMO. No diet changes until you have a history of several weeks' worth of perfect poops and steady weight gain.
This is an area I'm pretty educated and informed about, Nick, and I think that the other raw experts will agree with me too.
Another upset from a diet change could cause lasting damage. And the signposts used in raw feeding are not reliable yet.
Not yet.
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