Nancy Jocoy wrote 02/20/2006 06:31 AM Re: Found out dog has Hip Dysplasia what do I do n [Re: ken figueroa ] #98594 - 02/20/2006 06:31 AM
Nancy Jocoy Webboard User Reg: 05-03-2003 Posts: 924 Loc: Offline	Quote: I thank you guys for all your help and advice. He shows absolutly no signs of any pain, he is so hyper you would never know anything, but the vet said he has it. I will just keep working with him until he shows signs. Is this genetic or do all dogs down the road get this. Will it be safe to bread him down the road, or is it my fault for buying him from a back yard breeder. My take is I am continuing to work with my dog hard, BUT I do realize certain activities cause more potential damage to the hips and am restricting THOSE activities to slow down the degenerative process. Yes it is genetic!!! Doesn't breeding a dog you got from a backyard breeder make you a backyard breeder? Please don't breed him - it is hard enough to avoid the disease in dogs where proper selection has been done to AVOID bad hips, but the inheritance is not simple and sometimes two dogs with great hips, and who have produced good hips before, produce bad hips with each other.
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Carole Goetzelmann wrote 02/20/2006 08:07 AM Re: Found out dog has Hip Dysplasia what do I do now. [Re: ken figueroa ] #98595 - 02/20/2006 08:07 AM
Carole Goetzelmann Webboard User Reg: 01-06-2006 Posts: 21 Loc: Ohio Offline	I'm with the others. My dogs xrays came back from OFA as Moderate Dysplasia. I just saw an orthopedic vet Saturday. He said not to worry, that half the German Shepherds out on the street most likely have worse hips than my dog. He said to go ahead and keep doing agility and gave me some pain medication (Rimydal?) to use if he seems to be showing pain after heavy exercise. I feel much better. He's just a pet, but he's no couch potato.
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susan tuck wrote 02/20/2006 09:46 AM Re: Found out dog has Hip Dysplasia what do I do now. [Re: ken figueroa ] #98596 - 02/20/2006 09:46 AM
susan tuck Webboard User Reg: 01-23-2006 Posts: 1608 Loc: Cali & Wash State Offline	PLEASE do NOT breed this dog. Not only is there the issue of Hip Displaysia, but you mention you bought him from a "back yard" breeder. I assume, by the way you say that, perhaps your dogs' lineage is not suitable for breeding. Breeding is not simply putting a male & female together. Only those who are EXPERTS & are tring to improve the breed should be breeding. I can not stress this enough. Leave the breeding to the experts, you & I can reep the benefits by purchasing our puppies from them. If you have a really good breeder whom you trust, & your dog is FREE OF GONGENITAL DEFECTS, & someone wants to breed their bitch to your dog, GO BACK TO THE BREEDER & ask his/her opinion, before you do anything. Breeding is a serious undertaking. If you doubt my word, go to the pound & look at all the "purebreds". Most ended up there as a result of unresponsible breedings. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" />
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Naida Simpson wrote 02/20/2006 11:23 AM Re: Found out dog has Hip Dysplasia what do I do now. [Re: ken figueroa ] #98597 - 02/20/2006 11:23 AM
Naida Simpson Webboard User Reg: 01-20-2004 Posts: 76 Loc: Central Coast CA Offline	My 6 year old male GSD has severe HD on his right side. According to his x-rays there is almost no hip socket for the joint. I had an evaluation done by the good folks up at UC Davis, so I am very aware severity of his physical condition. He is, of course, neutered and I would never pass this gene on to another generation. I feed him a glucosamine/condriton combination pill, he is on a raw diet and gets a vitamin/mineral supplement. As for excercise, we walk a lot on very sandy soil and he is a very fit and happy dog. He has never shown any sign that he is in pain and can run and play and have the usual dog type fun. I am telling you all this because Baron is an extreme case of HD and we are doing really great as of now. If he ever needs a replacement we will take him back to Davis where the original research for replacements took place. Good luck with your dog.
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susan tuck wrote 02/20/2006 05:57 PM Re: Found out dog has Hip Dysplasia what do I do now. [Re: Naida Simpson ] #98598 - 02/20/2006 05:57 PM
susan tuck Webboard User Reg: 01-23-2006 Posts: 1608 Loc: Cali & Wash State Offline	I just saw my 11+ week old GSD puppy bunny hopping in the back once or twice when he was playing out in the yard. Am I being paranoid or should I be concerned? Also, I've been trying to "search" info on puppy supplementing, but can't seem to find a thread. Anyone know what "keyword" I should try?
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Connie Sutherland wrote 02/20/2006 06:05 PM Re: Found out dog has Hip Dysplasia what do I do n [Re: susan tuck ] #98599 - 02/20/2006 06:05 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	Quote: ....Also, I've been trying to "search" info on puppy supplementing, but can't seem to find a thread. Anyone know what "keyword" I should try? Use "all forums" instead of limiting to "puppy." The key word "supplements" will work, I believe.
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Connie Sutherland wrote 02/20/2006 06:12 PM Re: Found out dog has Hip Dysplasia what do I do n [Re: susan tuck ] #98600 - 02/20/2006 06:12 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	Quote: .....Also, I've been trying to "search" info on puppy supplementing, but can't seem to find a thread. Anyone know what "keyword" I should try? Here's a start. http://www.leerburg.com/diet.htm If you are feeding a commercial food, be careful with supplements of vitamins and minerals that might already have the RDA in the food. My own belief is that Omega 3 EFAs and Vitamin E are always beneficial. Also, I hope knowledgeable puppy people will respond about the hips. I've had all adult dogs.
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ken figueroa wrote 02/20/2006 10:14 PM PLEASE EXCEPT MY APPOLOGY [Re: Naida Simpson ] #98601 - 02/20/2006 10:14 PM
ken figueroa Webboard User Reg: 12-10-2004 Posts: 22 Loc: Offline	Please allow me to explain myself. I did not in no way mean breeding for a profit or to carry on his lineage. I see how I made it seem like that. What I mean was having a litter before I got him neutered so I can have a pup and give the rest to my family who want a pup as well. I guess it is the same thing but I am not wanting to consistently do it nor do it for a profit... But how can you tell if a dog is from a good lineage and not just being sold for the going price?
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susan tuck wrote 02/20/2006 10:29 PM Re: PLEASE EXCEPT MY APPOLOGY [Re: ken figueroa ] #98602 - 02/20/2006 10:29 PM
susan tuck Webboard User Reg: 01-23-2006 Posts: 1608 Loc: Cali & Wash State Offline	Ken, breeding is truly an art. It takes knowing not only your dogs, but the dogs BEHIND your dogs, and not just by pedigree, but by a working knowledge of the breed. Yours' may be a wonderful dog, but even if all things are correct on your dog, his get would only be HALF him! The responsible breeders I know, were truly students of their breed WAY before they ever bred a single dog. I have owned GSD's for many, many years & would NEVER breed my dog without the advise of knowledgeable breeders. ONLY experts should be breeding dogs.the more I know, the more I know I DON'T know enough to breed dogs!
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Connie Sutherland wrote 02/20/2006 10:38 PM Re: PLEASE EXCEPT MY APPOLOGY [Re: ken figueroa ] #98603 - 02/20/2006 10:38 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	Quote: .... What I mean was having a litter before I got him neutered so I can have a pup and give the rest to my family who want.... Dysplasia causes varying degrees of pain and lameness. The reason for breeding doesn't change that, and doesn't change the role that genetics plays. If your relatives want a puppy from your dog, I think they don't yet understand what it means to breed him. All "checklists" for deciding whether to breed or not include knowing that there is no dysplasia in either of the potential parents, as well as back several generations. You have a dog with dysplasia whose lineage is unknown. http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Flats/7244/checklist.html http://www.healthypet.com/library_view.aspx?ID=32&sid=1 http://www.cvm.uiuc.edu/petcolumns/showarticle.cfm?id=45
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