Re: What else can you do???
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#102103 - 03/26/2006 10:20 AM |
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Damn straight you should, and one you can and will sue effectively.
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Re: What else can you do???
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#102104 - 03/26/2006 10:23 AM |
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I guess if a 150lb raging dog had my wife I might stick it with a cattle prod otherwise, I am not sure I have the sack for that.
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Re: What else can you do???
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#102105 - 03/26/2006 11:02 AM |
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Weel here's my 2 cents....
I'm a no holds barred kinda guy when it comes to my protection or the protection of my family. If this guy took 9 stabbings to stop the dog he's not stabbing in the right place!! I'd have had two attempts at most and this first might well be a slit throat.
I'm sorry if this offends anyone (not in a good mood right now anyway as I just found out my bhoy most likely has HD) but a dog that attacks like that WITHOUT provocation or control from it's owner needs to be very quickly taken down by whatever means!!
Mike S is right about the British...here we have the unfortunate position of it being YOUR fault that some moron breaks into your house and ON THE WAY IN cuts himself on the glass he's just broken! NUTS!
I'd like to ring some necks in this country!!! Thats why I wanna move to Canada (I can live FAR away from the brits! (kinda <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />
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Re: What else can you do???
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#102106 - 03/26/2006 11:53 AM |
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A breaking stick is a device invented to pry a dogs jaws off someone. It's not a magic wand to dissipate a fight, it's simply a tool to break a dog off his grip. In any case that you need a break stick, you are going to run the risk of the dog redirecting. I don't agree that only dogs with screws loose will bite a person trying to break it up.
I do agree with you that he would have had to stab the dog. With some of these types of dogs, when you put physical pain on them they will clamp down harder and then begin to attempt to thrash whatever they are biting into submission. More pain, more fight.
I agree with John, go for the throat and be quick about it.
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Re: What else can you do???
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#102107 - 03/26/2006 11:55 AM |
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Someone was a bad word, I should have said something. I kind of consider a dog someone/something <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />
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Re: What else can you do???
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#102108 - 03/26/2006 01:13 PM |
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Everything about this story is horrendous! I'll bet that this wasn't the first time this fool Mastiff has shown aggression towards people before and should have been put down way before this incident ever happened. This was no normal dog, it sounds like it had more than a few screws loose. That dog was going after a woman with BABY! and the father got cited for over aggressive behavior??? what was he supposed to do? let the dog eat his wife because stabbing a dog attached to her leg would be too aggressive on his part? I don't carry any weapons with me when I walk, but this story has made me think that decision over. Doesn't even sound like the dog owner was that upset about the damn dog being stabbed to death, this woman needs to forget about owning another dog, or sticking to a chihuahua or something she can control. If this had happened in America, I would think that the father could have sued the dog owner for tons of money, this was her fault, if she can't control the dog, she shouldn't have had it out in public. What if the dog had gotten a hold of the baby???
I agree with whoever said slit his throat.
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Re: What else can you do???
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#102109 - 03/26/2006 01:18 PM |
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Barb,
I've only seen "bitesticks" used at a hog catch at a Bulldog catch trial and it took several men ( at least four *large* guys ) to seperate a dog from the catch hog.
Now if two dogs were fighting, a person would have to be out of their mind to try and use a bitestick to seperate two dogs - the chance of the dog nailing you once they broke and attempted to re-bite would be high.
Waaaay too risky to try.
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Re: What else can you do???
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#102110 - 03/26/2006 01:19 PM |
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OK, the country is Belgium. The owner of the Mastiff came to see the couple and make sure all were alright. She paid all the fathers fines and offered 3000 (Belgium currency). The incident is over, the man states that if he had gone to court he would have gotten less....all I can say is WOW. I passed on your comments regarding his actions as he still feels bad about the dog, I guess he feels a little more reassured about taking the life of a dog****sigh****
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Re: What else can you do???
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#102111 - 03/26/2006 01:24 PM |
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Valerie,
Please let the poor man know that the taking of an attacker's life ( whether it's an animal or a human ) to protect yourself or your family is an honorable act with no shame involved at all.
If more people took responsibility for their own safety, there'd be a lot less crime and evil in the world today.
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Re: What else can you do???
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#102112 - 03/26/2006 01:45 PM |
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I've only seen "bitesticks" used at a hog catch at a Bulldog catch trial and it took several men ( at least four *large* guys ) to seperate a dog from the catch hog.
Now if two dogs were fighting, a person would have to be out of their mind to try and use a bitestick to seperate two dogs - the chance of the dog nailing you once they broke and attempted to re-bite would be high.
Waaaay too risky to try.
Wow, that's crazy. I've heard a lot by experienced game pit bull owners that if you have a pitbull and you don't own a break stick you're irresponsible. I've never had to use a break stick but I've carried one to be safe, and been fully prepared to try to use it if need be <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" /> Thanks for mentioning that.
This was no normal dog, it sounds like it had more than a few screws loose.
If it had proper training and an owner with half a clue, it may not have had a few screws loose and been a really nice dog. I think people have to do research on their breeds more thoroughly and look at the components of a breed to fully understand what they could be dealing with. When they don't and these tragedies happen, it's always the dog is a killing machine and has a few screws loose, but in actuality the fault lies with the owner. This is one of the reasons breeds get watered down.
The guy who saved his wife is a hero. The owner of the mastiff is the idiot and should be in jail.
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