Thanks everyone for the good advice...I tried to respond earlier but my post disappeared! (Oh well, I'll learn)
Anyhow, I think that putting him in a stay is an excellent suggestion...my instructor didn't even make me aware it was an option...she just took my dog and told me to leave. No wonder he freaked, huh? Whereas if I put him in a stay, it doesn't even matter if someone is hold onto the leash, rather, he is still listening to me. Makes a lot more sense.
A lot of you are saying this test is difficult for a dog with high drives. I was concerned that his reaction to this test was more a matter of insecurity on his part. Could this be true, or is it a good thing that he is so bonded to me?
Barbara...in response to your post: It sounds like whoever was running the testing you took was a little over-zealous. Yes, the dog is supposed to ignore distractions, but he shouldn't be deliberately frightened. How odd!
"Test 10: Supervised separation
This test demonstrates that a dog can be left with a trusted person, if necessary, and will maintain training and good manners. Evaluators are encouraged to say something like, "Would you like me to watch your dog?" and then take hold of the dog's leash. The owner will go out of sight for three minutes. The dog does not have to stay in position but should not continually bark, whine, or pace unnecessarily, or show anything stronger than mild agitation or nervousness. Evaluators may talk to the dog but should not engage in excessive talking, petting, or management attempts (e.g, "there, there, it's alright").
Nothing stated about the dog being given a command, and as that is a tested exercise ( Number six ) I wouldn't allow it as an evaluator.
You are so right. I know you already know that. As you know Matrix is a medium drive dog and he even failed miserbly in that test. As soon as I left his sight, he started pulling and acting stupid. He actually pulled the dude. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" /> It was very funny <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />. I know I should not be laughing but it was funny <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
ps.- His basic OB is very exceptional now...Hoping to perfect it more.
Rashmi
Barbara Erdman Webboard User Reg: 10-20-2005
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When we took the test I assumed that's what we had to do; sit or down stay. They didn't say. The lady was an older woman and she was afraid of my dog. Maybe that's why she didn't say anything? I feel like a cheater now <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> The whole thing was a scam though IMO. They had puppies under 18 months taking the test and I specifically didn't test my puppy (who would have passed then) because the age limit was not reached. Other's did though and I frequently see people on other boards who take it and pass with a puppy.
Nowhere in the test did I see the pot banging scenario either when I got home and checked <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />
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Barb, You're not a cheater, the exercises are open to some interpetation and different testers approach it different ways, some make it very easy, some make it harder - so no beatin' yourself up over it, ok? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
The "pot banging" is just a variation on distration - I used to drop a folding chair onto the floor, as I saw it as more realistic.
Rashmi...as Matrix almost pulled me off my feet once during training, I can total see that happening! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
"Test 10: Supervised separation
This test demonstrates that a dog can be left with a trusted person, if necessary, and will maintain training and good manners. Evaluators are encouraged to say something like, "Would you like me to watch your dog?" and then take hold of the dog's leash. The owner will go out of sight for three minutes.
Before the dog's leash is handed over, wouldn't the dog already be in a "sit" or "stay"? Otherwise, seems like the dog wouldn't know what to do when the owner walked away. My dog would never pass this without a command first. He'd look at me and ask, "Mommy?". Seen that look too many times at the vet's and groomer's.
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