Quite clearly, neither one of us is qualified to determine what does or does not cause GDV, since the best vets and researchers in the country can't figure it out either! So I defer to the experts, not pseudo-experts.
Well, I suppose we should do exactly what the vets have all done, agree to disagree. The only thing that matters is that we know how to prevent it, what to do in case of it, and how to treat it. What also matters is that our own dog are safe from it, which no dog really is, and that none of our dogs suddenly comes down with it. So lets just agree that we both love the dogs, the work, and agree to disagree with the raised bowl issue <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />
Angela
Matthew Grubb Webboard User Reg: 09-27-2002
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Lee... you're in the know with this issue it apears... are there any bloat case studies involving raw diet fed dogs or is it all based on kibble feeding?
The studies aren't based on food types. There are two types of studies - prospective studies enlist a bunch of healthy dogs and owners of 'high risk' breeds and track them for so many years, and then look at how many developed GDV and what were the common factors; and retrospective studies take dogs who have already had GDV and look at their histories for common factors. I'm not aware of a study being done specifically on dogs who are fed raw diets, but also can't imagine how one would do that, since no two barfers feed alike and there is considerable variation in the meals from one day to the next. The scientists are breaking down the food content into it's components, looking for trends, and you can't do that when every meal is different and the owner doesn't know the exact composition.
Unfortunately Auster had a raised food bowl until she bloated and I started looking around Purdue's site. Now she has a lowered dish.
When Auster bloated she only had a little bit of donut (she begs) and some grass in her stomach. Luckily she bloated before her evening meal, otherwise I wouldn't have her right now. I think that it has more to do with the time between meals than giving a large amount of food at one meal, but it is impossible to say. Purdue's site is really great for anyone interested in bloat.
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Jeannette Polowski Webboard User Reg: 03-12-2002
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Angela, I'm having trouble with your theory of raised/lowered dog dishes. Logically speaking,irregardless of the height of the dish, the dog still opens it's mouth the same and the food still has to travel the same distance down the throat and into the stomach. And let's remember that lowered is the natural position of drinking and eating for a dog, as intended by nature.
No one ever said life was supposed to be easy, life is what you make of it!!
Originally posted by Jeannette Polowski: And let's remember that lowered is the natural position of drinking and eating for a dog, as intended by nature. Yep. The only reason I can see raising the food bowl would be for comfort – if in fact it is more comfortable for a dog to eat from this position.
Nope. There is anouther reason. Twenty years ago every one in the AKC breed ring began raising the dishes. So the dog would learn not to put its head down in the ring. Stupid but true.
Ron
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