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[Re: RobbinMann ]
#121655 - 12/20/2006 10:29 PM |
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My preference is a nice Doberman. The problem is finding good Dobes is even tougher than finding a good GSD. They are (the good ones) quick, powerful, incredibly intelligent and I haven't had one yet that I didn't trust around my family. That being said, I think ANY dog needs supervision with children. I think the only drawback is the intelligence/drive/energy level means there is no slacking off in the exercise and training. Although I'd hardly call that a drawback. And shedding is minimal which is a nice bonus. 
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Re: Dogs other than GSD's for protection work
[Re: RobbinMann ]
#121673 - 12/21/2006 02:34 AM |
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Go for A Rottweiler. Don't let him get to heavy {keep him lean} I have a male rottweiler very trainable. My dog gets 42 kilometers of
walks and gentle jogs a week.
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Re: Dogs other than GSD's for protection work
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#121681 - 12/21/2006 06:16 AM |
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The toughest dog I've ever faced was a cross between a GSD and a Malinois. Man, what a dog!!
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Re: Dogs other than GSD's for protection work
[Re: Mike Sanchez ]
#121695 - 12/21/2006 08:06 AM |
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ACD's are pretty protective in general, aren't they? I've seen quite a few that I wouldn't want to scrap with.
However, I think part of the PPD value is just in the look. Dogs such as GSDs, Rotties, Dobes and Pits all have that "don't mess with me" look, even if they're sweeties. Sometimes their bad-ass rep works to your advantage in scaring off the bad guys!
Personally, I'd rather have people leave me and my family/house alone just by seeing the dog, without actually having to see my dog act tough. Not that I wouldn't want my dog to deliver if needed, but I'd rather not have to get to that point.
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Re: Dogs other than GSD's for protection work
[Re: Amber Morgan ]
#121713 - 12/21/2006 09:48 AM |
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I have to agree with you Amber. This is why I am not interested in some of the smaller gsds say from Czech republic. I saw a female imported from Czech Rep. at the Schuthund training and thought what a cute pup, she only looked around 7-9 months old. Turns out she was 18 months old. I almost fainted my border collie is bigger than she was! I also don't want a confrontation if I can avoid one. Fact remains though, if the bad guy is dumb enough to attempt to go through the dog, will the dog be able to take him on?
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Re: Dogs other than GSD's for protection work
[Re: RobbinMann ]
#121716 - 12/21/2006 10:01 AM |
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I disagree with Amber, the value of a ppd is that the dog will confront when the chips are down, that's why you do training scenarios. Robbin, the size of the dog isn't the thing, it's the fight in the dog and the dogs temperament. If you're looking for a ppd, look at the dogs workability. A small female can do the job if it's mind is right, no problem. Just my personal opinion of course,
AL
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Re: Dogs other than GSD's for protection work
[Re: Al Curbow ]
#121718 - 12/21/2006 10:11 AM |
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I agree Al, the dog must be able to back it up. Still, like I have said the dog that I acquire must be able to tolerate some stupidity in it's owners abilities. I am no expert. This is a FIRST time attempt at training a dog of this caliber. Will I put my heart into it? Yes! Will I succeed? Who the heck knows! Will I be able to handle a dog with drive? Who knows! Will I be way out of my league? Maybe! I JUST DUNNO!
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Re: Dogs other than GSD's for protection work
[Re: RobbinMann ]
#121732 - 12/21/2006 10:54 AM |
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Robbin,
The two breeds that are easiest to train for what we consider 'work" are the GSD and Mal.
All the "alternative" breeds are usually harder to find a good dog within that breed and then if you can find a good one, require much more effort to get the training done.
I say this as someone who has titled several Rotties in SchH and high level AKC obedience and I even put a SchH II and a UD on an Airedale - I could have titled three GSD's in the time it took to title just that single Airedale.
Honestly....it would be a serious mistake for a beginner to start off with a working dog other than a GSD or Mal. trust me on this.
And hey Al! I closed K9 Concepts of Georgia for now - I'm just too busy as a student in the Culinary Institute to devote the time needed to give the clients the time needed to deliver a quality dog ( the website should be pulled this week ).
Now I get to train just for fun..... 
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[Re: John Haudenshield ]
#121733 - 12/21/2006 10:57 AM |
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hmmm as for me i go with either
Dobermann as i own 4 myself
Bouvier
Giant Schnauzer
Rottweiler
Belgian Malinois
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Re: Dogs other than GSD's for protection work
[Re: Al Curbow ]
#121759 - 12/21/2006 11:55 AM |
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I disagree with Amber, the value of a ppd is that the dog will confront when the chips are down, that's why you do training scenarios. Robbin, the size of the dog isn't the thing, it's the fight in the dog and the dogs temperament. If you're looking for a ppd, look at the dogs workability. A small female can do the job if it's mind is right, no problem. Just my personal opinion of course,
AL
Al, I wasn't talking about a dog that just looks the part. I said I would want a dog to deliver, if needed, but I would prefer a dog that has looks that would deter the less-motivated of the crooks first, before delivery is necessary.
All things being equal, I would prefer a PPD that looks the part over one that doesn't.
Just to clear up. 
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