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I have Eds' dominant collar, and I love it they all have one on and it's easy to grab and correct unwanted behavior very quickly.

 Quote: richard pryor

...Even though I don't allow the ACD to impose himself, I should be able to do that if I wanted to. As far as I know, that's what pack leaders do, say whom is superior to whom on the pack ladder. Not doing that btw.

Richard, I hope you don't mind my saying that I absolutely do not agree with that statement that you should be able to do that if you wanted to. No dog should be allowed to "impose" himself on another dog, especially a dog that is not part of the pack (your pack) and the ACD is not part of your pack. Your dog knows that. In a wolf pack, you won't see the alpha allow another wolf that is outside it's pack to even come in to its pack, much less impose itself on one of the alpha's pack wolves. It just won't happen. The outside wolf would be torn to bits, by ALL members of the wolf pack.

Cesar doesn't allow one dog to impose itself on another, at all, quite the contrary. I understand that you said you don't allow it, but it's not something you should be able to allow if you want to either. It's not fair, and it's not pack instinct, to your dog.

Let me clear up the name of Cesar's collar. Its actually called the "Illusion" collar. It looks like a webbed collar but the DD collar rides at the top of it. Wish I thought of it. Its idiot proof.

Howard

I agree with you because it's a dog outside our pack, as you say. But if for some reason he had to become part of our pack (if this was a puppy or whatever) and my dog was acting aggressively towards him, I would definitely make him understand that this new pack member is untouchable.

Maybe I don't understand what you guys mean by impose. English isn't my first language. But I've seen Cesar take other animals and make the aggressive dog smell them while in a submissive lay down. This happened in the episode where he brought a hamster and a bird (I think) to the back yard. The dog was a mix pit bull.

That sounds like imposition to me. Do you think that the fact that they weren't dogs (rat&bird) makes the situation different?

 Quote: richard pryor

I agree with you because it's a dog outside our pack, as you say. But if for some reason he had to become part of our pack (if this was a puppy or whatever) and my dog was acting aggressively towards him, I would definitely make him understand that this new pack member is untouchable.

Maybe I don't understand what you guys mean by impose. English isn't my first language. But I've seen Cesar take other animals and make the aggressive dog smell them while in a submissive lay down. This happened in the episode where he brought a hamster and a bird (I think) to the back yard. The dog was a mix pit bull.

That sounds like imposition to me. Do you think that the fact that they weren't dogs (rat&bird) makes the situation different?

Yes, Richard, you have the right idea (IMO): A member of your pack, your household, who has to get along with other members is much different from your pack member's attitude about "outsiders."

For me, I want my dogs to ignore strange dogs. In my housefold, aggression is not tolerated in any form and it would earn a level-ten correction. However, because these dogs were introduced to each other very slowly and very carefully and going 100% by Ed Frawley's instructions about introducing dogs, I have never had to do more than a voice correction, and that was way back when.

You see CM doing that human-directed butt-sniffing, etc., in order to integrate a new pack member. As far as outsiders go, you will see his goal of a dog-aggressive dog becoming indifferent to other dogs.

You may recall that the hamster episode involved a dog who had already killed a cat and whose owners wanted small animals to be safe in their home.

On a walk, out in public, the goal would be to walk right on by, calmly and without excited attention to other animals, following the leadership of the handler.

I'm not sure what "impose" meant, either, but if it meant to allow a strange unleashed dog to invade the space of my leashed dog, then this is something I would not allow.