Jenni Williams wrote 08/14/2007 02:01 PM Re: Ed's opinion on Chow?? [Re: Mike Morrison ] #151687 - 08/14/2007 02:01 PM
Jenni Williams Webboard User Reg: 10-06-2005 Posts: 2686 Loc: llinois Offline	Quote: mike morrison My ex had a Chow when we were dating...he was very intimidating. He would growl at me at eye level when I was on the couch waiting for her to finish putting her face on. He'd put his head under my hand and growl wanting me to pet him. All classic dominance issues. He was big and intimidating Mike, LOL! I should give you my boyfriend's number; you can swap horror stories. That has zero to do with being a Chow. Caleb does that too. I guess you think that's undesireable?  Quote: I'll NEVER own one and surely wouldn't have one around a baby or child. As the Crazy Pit Bull Lady, I gotta step in and say that this, like every other dog issue, comes down to responsible ownership of a particular dog, not a particular breed. Keeping a baby around a dog is a human responsibility, and a grave one. If this dog is the grandparents' dog, not the parents' dog, why can't it be kept separate from the baby? I'm sorry, but I think a dog who is so "unpredictable" is actually quite predictable...and the humans in charge know what needs to be done to alleviate any chance for tragedy.
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Mike Morrison wrote 08/14/2007 04:46 PM Re: Ed's opinion on Chow?? [Re: Jenni Williams ] #151735 - 08/14/2007 04:46 PM
Mike Morrison Webboard User Reg: 11-29-2005 Posts: 375 Loc: Houston, Texas Offline	Jenni, you're a cruel, cruel woman Is he still your boyfriend after that kind of treatment from you and Caleb??? lol I've never been around one Chow that was ever good with anyone other than the owner, much less children. I'm sure they're ok with one owner, but I've never seen them be good with anyone else...ever. I'm not sure about any breed specific bans-they always seem completely unreasonable and illogical to me, but kids and Chows don't mix, IMO ever. Brenna
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Jenni Williams wrote 08/14/2007 04:56 PM Re: Ed's opinion on Chow?? [Re: Mike Morrison ] #151737 - 08/14/2007 04:56 PM
Jenni Williams Webboard User Reg: 10-06-2005 Posts: 2686 Loc: llinois Offline	Quote: mike morrison Jenni, you're a cruel, cruel woman Is he still your boyfriend after that kind of treatment from you and Caleb??? lol Yep, no one ever said he was the brightest bulb in the chandelier. He can fly a fighter jet, but he cannot seem to refrain from entering visual/virtual pissing contests with a DOG. And hey, I'll stop Caleb when he steps out of line. Like his Mom, he's great at just tiptoeing right at the edge...  Quote: I've never been around one Chow that was ever good with anyone other than the owner, much less children. I'm sure they're ok with one owner, but I've never seen them be good with anyone else...ever. I'm not sure about any breed specific bans-they always seem completely unreasonable and illogical to me, but kids and Chows don't mix, IMO ever. Hey, I agree; they're not happy-happy pets. BUT-it's the owner's responsibility to deal with all involved...wisely and safely. I like them, but I prefer an anti-social, grouchy, "dangerous" dog-they make me look better ! Seriously, they just are allowed to get away with too much because people take the attitude that "they're Chows, and everyone knows you can't do anything with Chows." What I don't understand is why the grandparents can't just put him in a bedroom when the kid visits? Why beg for trouble???
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steve strom wrote 08/14/2007 05:17 PM Re: Ed's opinion on Chow?? [Re: Jenni Williams ] #151739 - 08/14/2007 05:17 PM
steve strom Webboard User Reg: 03-17-2006 Posts: 4203 Loc: Offline	She's living there not just visiting.
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Angela Kovacs wrote 08/14/2007 05:24 PM Re: Ed's opinion on Chow?? [Re: Carol Boche ] #151741 - 08/14/2007 05:24 PM
Angela Kovacs Webboard User Reg: 08-01-2007 Posts: 6 Loc: Offline	I have owned GSDs, Dobbies, Pits, but never a Chow. Like the page said know what you are getting into. I have to say that the most aggressive dog I have ever encountered was a Tibetan Mastiff ( the Tibetan version not the English version) That dog by far had the most human aggression that I have ever seen. A family purchased the dog from Tibet not knowing what they were getting into and the dog mauled several family members. Beautiful dog though.
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Jenni Williams wrote 08/14/2007 05:32 PM Re: Ed's opinion on Chow?? [Re: steve strom ] #151742 - 08/14/2007 05:32 PM
Jenni Williams Webboard User Reg: 10-06-2005 Posts: 2686 Loc: llinois Offline	How'd I miss THAT? I still say put him in the bedroom when the kid's crawling around. Separation is the only thing to do. Is the kid going to be there permanently or is there an end in sight? If so, would someone (friend, family)take the dog temporarily? I know what I would do, but it may take more diligence than they're willing to put into it.
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Michael Reese wrote 08/14/2007 06:00 PM Re: Ed's opinion on Chow?? [Re: Carol Boche ] #151744 - 08/14/2007 06:00 PM
Michael Reese Webboard User Reg: 03-07-2006 Posts: 318 Loc: Sacramento, Ca. Offline	I don't want to throw the baby out with the bath water but I can generalize here with this breed. I have trained a number of chows and 90 percent of them have been hypertensive. If you don't train them with the utmost care and correct them just right, you will get bit. Yes I have seen a few Chows that were different but for the most part I have to say they are Hypertensive.
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Candi Campbell wrote 08/14/2007 06:30 PM Re: Ed's opinion on Chow?? [Re: Michael Reese ] #151747 - 08/14/2007 06:30 PM
Candi Campbell Webboard User Reg: 02-06-2006 Posts: 696 Loc: San Francisco, CA Offline	Um-m-m-m "hypertensive" means they suffer from hypertension, which is high bloodpressure -- I think you meant something else, possibly "highstrung" or maybe "hypo-thyroidism" ??? How anyone can live without a dog is beyond me...
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lisa kidd wrote 08/14/2007 07:19 PM Re: Ed's opinion on Chow?? [Re: Candi Campbell ] #151755 - 08/14/2007 07:19 PM
lisa kidd Webboard User Reg: 10-15-2001 Posts: 145 Loc: memphis tn Offline	The Chow I have now is the 7th one I've owned. All of ours have been great around kids. Smokey, the current one, even used to go to work with me when I worked retail. They do reqiure a lot of socialzation and training. I would be inclined to believe the dogs problem is more of a management one than a breed one. Lisa Jerri Lee
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Sandy Moore wrote 08/14/2007 08:00 PM Re: Ed's opinion on Chow?? [Re: lisa kidd ] #151758 - 08/14/2007 08:00 PM
Sandy Moore Webboard User Reg: 07-25-2006 Posts: 2665 Loc: AZ Offline	Not knowing what kind of partition is being used, unless it's metal and completely secured, I'll just add that I wouldn't trust a wooden partition to keep a dog contained, ever. A determined dog can blow right through one. Those flimsy latches won't hold a dog if he's in high drive for any reason, especially aggression.
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