I have read the link, my problem is not introducing the new dog (that I still don't have) in fact, I don't even have a problem. I am looking for advise, experiences etc, that you guys can share, having a young working prospect puppy, with another dog.
Am I always going to keep them separate?
Since I work 8-5 I am trying to get ideas on how people cope with this.
I don't want to repeat my self, so if someone wants to share their experiences please read above.

Your help is very very appreciated.

Thanks again.

Well get a working puppy video from Ed and it will answer many of your questions.

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Am I always going to keep them separate?
Since I work 8-5 I am trying to get ideas on how people cope with this.
Thanks again.

Fernando,

I would keep them seperate at least until the pup is two years old unless you are there to supervise the interaction. The main concerns with unsupervised interaction are the pup getting dominated which will affect confidence and working ability and the pup looking to your other dog for fun instead of you and becoming too "doggy". I work all day as well, and my pup does just fine in her crate during the day. My first order of business when I get home is to work her and give her a few bites to get all that energy out. If she turns out to be a pup that has troubles settling in while crated during the day, exercise her in the morning as well. A tired pup is a well behaved happy pup. I really like the game demonstrated in the drive and focus DVD for this. Ten minutes with a bite rag will really have the pup's tongue hanging on the floor and panting. This is what you want, as it will make her manageable in the house. As she gets older, switch to tugs or a balls on strings (whichever she likes best) and add in some two toy work and incorporate long bites and retrieves into it so she really gets to work hard for a short burst of 10-15 minutes. If the tongue is hanging, she is panting, and you are sweating you know you have done good. Since you are green and will need help with drive building (like me) get with a seasoned helper early to start foundation work with her, and show him how you are playing with her and ask for other suggestions. Good luck and have fun with the pup!

John, Thanks soooo much for your two replies, they are really helpful, since you can get videos, read etc, but there is nothing like actual experience.

Thank you very much!

I am really exited for this new puppy, and hopefully I will do things correctly.

I am planning on following your great advise John.

One other thing, how much do you crate a working dog? can you share your schedule with your dog john?

I was planning:

Early morning potty time, food, play for a while, work a little then crate.

Afternoon,(not me but my wife) potty time, food, play and back to
crate

6 at night, potty time, play, work, food, work a little and back to crate, Train and exercise my dobe, and then late at night get the puppy out, potty, play a little and back to crate.....

How much time will you consider overcrating?

Thanks plenty!!!

F.

I kept my new female pup seperated from my male till she was 10 months old, with 1 or 2 minute "sessions" where she was allowed to interact with him between 10 weeks and 10 months to get them a little used to eachother.

Between 10 and 13 months old I gradually increased the time they were together, and now when she isn't annoying the hell out of me she's with my older male together in the house. Male + Female is pretty easy, don't worry about it too much. When the pup is young she will be in the crate most of the time anyway since pups should sleep, you can gradually increase free time as you get into the rhythm of things with 2 dogs and it will work itself out.

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One other thing, how much do you crate a working dog? can you share your schedule with your dog john?

How much time will you consider overcrating?

F.

Fernando,

You are very welcome. As far as your questions...

As a young puppy (up to about 6 months), the answer is easy. Any time that you cannot devote 100% of your attention to puppy she's in her crate, and any time she starts driving you crazy she goes in her crate. Both of these are for her safety and your sanity. As she matures it's a matter of opinion to some extent, and there are a few different schools of thought. Personally, whenever we are home including over night my 1 yr old is not crated. This has not affected her work one bit, and she is 100% focused and gung ho whenever she hits the field. I may lean towards crating her more in the future during intense training leading up to a trial in order to build her energy and focus, but I may not need to. That is something that you adjust on the fly and you will absolutely be able to tell because you will be working her and any issues she has show up on the field. I don't know if you can really "over crate" provided she is getting intense (age appropriate) exercise when she is out of her crate.

John thanks so much for sharing.....again, I really appreciate it.

Right now, since I only have my dobie, he is NOT crated in the evenings, he romes the whole house...we enjoy him a lot.

Do you think (in do time of course..)I can have them both, supervised of course, in the house at the same time with out affecting her? I know that may be this is a though question to answer. It's just that I want to know if I can share time with them with out messing her up.

Thanks man.....you don't know how valuable your experiences mean right now.

F.

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Do you think (in do time of course..)I can have them both, supervised of course, in the house at the same time with out affecting her? I know that may be this is a though question to answer. It's just that I want to know if I can share time with them with out messing her up.

My dogs are together, there is no more hyper and annoying dog than my female, but my dogs do fine in the house together and she'll work till she drops like the best of them Id wait till a year old or so first, but time flies.

Again, I had my pup out with my older male for while I supervised. It will totally depend on the two dogs. The fact that you will be working both dogs will increase your odds. Tired dogs are good dogs. You can try having them spend some time together in the evenings after working them while supervising them and see how they do. As long as she does not get dominated, and isn't allowed to roughhouse with the older dog and doesn't look to him for fun instead of you you know you're good. I keep saying this, but the best part about Schutzhund outside the end result of all the training is that you will know every aspect of your pups temperment and personality because it will all show on the field. There's nowhere to hide out there, and your helper will be able to tell right away if there are issues.

John, you are the man!

Thanks sooo much.....

Now I need to find a good helper.........(it's going to be though..) the good thing is that I can start working with her by myself with the drive and focus video.......that gives me a little bit of time to find a helper......

Since I am getting her in early december......a little bit more of time to get ready....

Thanks again John!

F.