Re: eating "stuff"
[Re: Lynne Barrows ]
#158326 - 10/15/2007 12:32 PM |
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thanks guys. my boy will be 3 months tomorrow. he weighed in at 20.5 lbs. I submitted a stool sample last night. Im such a fool, I should have tried the pumpkin thing before going to the vet. I've been running around all scatter brained lately, reading the input from this site is the only thing keeping me sane..lol. would adding pumpkin to his diet too often have any negative effects? I want to be able to feed him treats with his diet so I can make training fun for him again. I love those exercises from Ed's video...the touch and place drills.
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Re: eating "stuff"
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#158327 - 10/15/2007 12:38 PM |
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Nothing wrong with training with treats, but my pup had to go NO TREATS for WEEKS ... and we had to learn to train without them.
He gets them now, but he's such a food hound we still train without treats. At 11 months old and 75 lbs, he is getting plenty of nutrition from his dog food.
Pumpkin is good for them, and so is Yogurt.
Louanne
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Re: eating "stuff"
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#158328 - 10/15/2007 12:41 PM |
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would adding pumpkin to his diet too often have any negative effects?
I think small amounts of pumpkin = just fine.
HOWEVER, I would not want to be relying on it to "treat" chronic diarrhea. The underlying cause has to be addressed. JMO.
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Re: eating "stuff"
[Re: Connie Sutherland ]
#158329 - 10/15/2007 12:44 PM |
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Ive read that site about the foodanalysis. the vet wants me to stick with Royal canin for 10-12 weeks, and X out all treats and extras. that'll suck because he'll be 6 months at the end of this trail and have a seemingly boring puppyhood food wise. I feel bad for him. my gut instinct is telling me to switch up to THK as soon as his stool gets harder... I dont know though....
I assumed here that you meant RC hypoallergenic, right?
I would add that while I don't agree that this sounds like a food allergy, and while that's not the elimination diet I would choose if I DID start one, I still have to say that putting the dog on a hypo-allergenic food and then giving training treats totally blows the whole purpose.
If you are going the route of the vet's suggestion, then NO OTHER FOODS, PERIOD. The idea is to "eliminate" all possible food allergens in an elimination diet.
You can take little scoops of the canned version of the food you are using and bake them dry for treats.
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Re: eating "stuff"
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#158330 - 10/15/2007 12:47 PM |
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In other words, do the vet's diet or don't, but doing it halfway is a total waste.
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#158333 - 10/15/2007 12:54 PM |
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Some food for thought, (I crack my self up :grin if you choose to go kibble it is so easy to give the individual kernels as training treats! Just remember how much you give this way. The value to the dog goes up coming from your hand. It’s like tricking the dog into thinking it is a very yummy treat!
But do this after his poor tummy feels better.
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#158432 - 10/15/2007 08:42 PM |
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well, got home this afternoon, he's been vomiting some kind of clear fluid. vet said I need to space out his meds. give panacure (dewormer), then 1 hour later give the albon. Im getting a strong urge to do my own thing... GRRRR !!!
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#158452 - 10/16/2007 12:11 AM |
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The clear or slightly yellow liquid may be bile. Starbuck will throw up a small amount of this if there is no food in her belly.
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#158520 - 10/16/2007 01:06 PM |
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checked him this morning, he didnt have any vomit in his area. he also doesnt seem too interested in the Royal Canin food neither..lol. I have come to the conclusion that if he doesnt have any allergies to food, I will finish up the Royal Canin and start to work in the THK diet I have been wanting to use. Once that happens I'll be blowing up this message board with tons more questions...hehe. In all seriousness, I've tried embark but found verve to be slightly cheaper. my rottie will be about 4 months or so by the time this happens. Verve? or Embark?
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checked him this morning, he didnt have any vomit in his area. he also doesnt seem too interested in the Royal Canin food neither..lol. I have come to the conclusion that if he doesnt have any allergies to food, I will finish up the Royal Canin and start to work in the THK diet I have been wanting to use. Once that happens I'll be blowing up this message board with tons more questions...hehe. In all seriousness, I've tried embark but found verve to be slightly cheaper. my rottie will be about 4 months or so by the time this happens. Verve? or Embark?
I would choose by other criteria:
1- VERVE (Beef ~ With Grains)
Recommended for less active or senior dogs or when switching off of kibble.
2- FORCE (Chicken ~ Grain Free)
Recommended for adult dogs that are intolerant of grains.
3- EMBARK (Turkey ~ Grain Free)
Recommended for more active dogs as well as pregnancy, lactation and puppies.
4- PREFERENCE (Meat Free ~ All Vegetables)
Recommended for use with added raw meat, meaty bones, or cooked meat.
5- THRIVE (Chicken ~ Low Carbohydrates)
Recommended for dogs of all life stages. Excellent for dogs with sensitive stomachs.
http://www.leerburg.com/honestkitchen.htm
Verve has grains. Preference has no meat (is not complete "as is").
I buy Embark and Force for travel, no-frozen-food syndrome, and occasional use as part of my dogs' raw diet. I would also buy those two if it was going to be a major part of my dogs' diet.
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