Re: raw bones
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#15300 - 03/07/2005 10:33 AM |
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Hi Tim,
At 8 weeks my pup was eating whole large chicken quarters and I never had a problem. I'm not saying that this is the best thing to feed a puppy but he never had a problem chewing them up.
About 2 weeks ago I gave him a beef rib bone which was about 4-5 inches long. Within about 30 seconds the entire rib bone was gone -- he swallowed it whole. I was worried about blockage but he hasn't seemed to have a problem at all, anyone else had their dog swallow a whole large bone like that? I wonder if I shouldn't give him beef ribs anymore...
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Re: raw bones
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#15301 - 03/07/2005 10:54 AM |
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Mike;
My dogs too have swallowed large bones and for the most part didn't have any problems... other than my 12 yo who gets constipated easily. But the younger dogs... no problem.
One of the vets I used to go to (before a major move) told me that bone will dissolve. This from a vet that first frowned upon BARF feeding, then starting asking ME questions sometimes resulting in a conversation up to 45 mins.
When that does happen, large bone consumption, I will give them a extra spoon of apple cider vinegar for a couple of meals.
With rib bones I like to give a small rack, like 3 or 4 bones together. It's big enough that they can't swallow the whole thing and they really have to work at getting the meat and white connective tissues that wrap the rib bones. It really slows them down in eating them.
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Re: raw bones
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#15302 - 03/07/2005 12:00 PM |
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I do as Donna stated with beef rib bones... give them a few ribs connected together. The dogs chew and tear at at them, but connected they are too big to just swallow.
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Re: raw bones
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#15303 - 03/07/2005 12:15 PM |
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Donna and Tara - thanks for the input. What I've been doing is buying a rack of beef ribs and giving my dogs one at a time so they have something to chew on for a while (I get them for around $1.00 per pound). This is cheaper than raw hide and works great with my adult dog who chews them up and eats the rib in about an hour. Any suggestions on RMBs that keep are safe and will keep a dog chewing for a while?
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#15304 - 03/07/2005 12:24 PM |
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I get the big meaty knuckles from Kroger. I freeze them and after an hour or two of chewing the bone is still cold, so I just rinse it off and put it in a ziploc and refreeze for next time. They love it and i takes them awhile to get it ground down because they are mostly round with not much to get ahold of to consume. They go batty!!
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#15305 - 03/08/2005 07:35 PM |
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The knuckles that Diann mentioned are good. They are the balled ends of beef bones. The stores will call them soup bones sometimes. My dogs grind their teeth on them for hours and hours.
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#15306 - 03/08/2005 10:18 PM |
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Just want to throw in a clarification on the original topic:
RMB's (raw, meaty bones) are part of the dogs' diet, ie: chix necks, wings, leg quarters, backs, pork necks, turkey necks ect.
Recreational bones are a treat, ie: knuckle bones, rib bones, beef leg bones (soup bones)ie: Large bones.
Just didn't want any raw diet newbies to be confused. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
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Re: raw bones
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#15307 - 03/16/2005 07:10 PM |
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So I started the raw diet a week ago. No more kibble. On our afternoon walk, I checked out Sabian's stool, I always do. I noticed three disturbing things.
1. The stool was hard, like he had been eating rocks (though I know that's not possible, trust me)
2. There was blood in the stool, about a dime size.
3. There was a thin, long flesh colored thing in the stool. I thought it might be a vein from the turkey neck, but as a pre med student, it didn't look like any vein I ever saw. Also, I fed turkey neck about 6pm yesterday, 3/15/05, so it should have passed with this mornings stool.
I am concerned that he might have some problem with a bone. In that case, I plan on stopping the raw diet, though I have already bought about 40lb of meat. I'd rather go back to kibble than have to deal with bone shards and blood.
On the other hand, that thin flesh colored thing could have been a worm, and the blood came from that. In that case, I have a scary problem, because it was 2-3 inches long. Could that be a heartworm?
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Re: raw bones
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#15308 - 03/16/2005 07:18 PM |
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Some answers:
1. The stool was hard, like he had been eating rocks (though I know that's not possible, trust me)
That's due to the amount of bone versus meat in the diet. Add more meat.
2. There was blood in the stool, about a dime size.
See answer to number 1
Can't help you with number 3.
3. There was a thin, long flesh colored thing in the stool. I thought it might be a vein from the turkey neck, but as a pre med student, it didn't look like any vein I ever saw. Also, I fed turkey neck about 6pm yesterday, 3/15/05, so it should have passed with this mornings stool.
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Re: raw bones
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#15309 - 03/16/2005 07:41 PM |
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Thanks. I 've been giving him chicken thighs, which I thought had too high a meat to bone ratio, so I tossed in some turkey necks and pork net bones, a higher bone to meat ratio. That explains the sudden change. I will balance out the meals, so it's one neckbone meal and two meaty meals.
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