Congrates Carol,
So now a little bit of you is out tracking down the bad guys, finding lost children and in general making life in the good old USA worth living. THANK YOU. Salute.
Was he trained or in training when he went off to his destiny?
Yes, the thread. I can see how the Bloodhounds drive can be equated with prey, and like you I can't see how the Newfoundlands instinct to swim connects to prey or any drive i'm familar with. Maybe somebody can enlighten us here.
If I'm not learning, I'm not paying attention.
Randy
Herding fish, That's funny but maybe not so far off base. Apache come from a breeder that had a show line golden. She got loose while in heat and bred with a newfi down the road. He looks like a mini newfi. He does not kill anything. He catches birds, frogs and anything else he can get when in the back compound. Five acres of woods and pond fenced in. He will just carry them around in his mouth being careful not to bite down.He layes them down between his legs to play with them I guess. 95% of the time they escape unharmed. The anxiety issue is a separate matter I will post later.I have about 60 feet to the fence from the house. My other dogs all go to the fence and wait to be let in and Apache will too most of the time unless he See's a critter. That's when he bolts and it seem nothing can stop him.I'm afraid he will chase to the road and farther. So he has to be leashed every time we go out. Yes they have all been OB trained with no problems with any of them except Apache. We'll get there in time but thought I might learn a few new tricks in this matter. Any suggestions?
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I would start by using a long line and working on the recall in an area with no distractions. Use a food he absolutely LOVES (cut up steaks work well, cheap sirloin)
And make YOU the funnest thing in the world. Use the long line to "help" him if you need to.
It is all about you being the best thing even when there is something interesting.
Do you use crates and kennels, or are your dogs all allowed together?
I would suggest crating him and not letting him "'hang out" with the others until he realizes that you are the one that controls his "world".
Dogs that are allowed to "hang out" before establishing leadership and control become "doggie" and this makes training all the more difficult as they decide that being with the others is more fun than being with and doing what you ask.
This means that you may have to work with him and take him out separately but the rewards far outweigh the inconvenience.
Along with the long line and the "food" you could use the e-collar on a higher stim, but I would try it without first. And work on him wearing the collar for a few hours a day (without utilizing it) to try and condition him to it. And, if you can, get Ed'd DVD on the e-collar. He explains it far better than I, and his dvd's are great to watch.
Until The Tale of the Lioness is told, the Story will Always Glorfy the Hunter
You added another key to the situation. Originally you said the dog would bolt after everthing. Now your comment says he actually catches the critters.
Having hunted with terriers for years, I've never seen a dog that had once caught something, that could be broke easily.
This may very well be a "critter breaking" scenario more then a recall.
If yu have the dog wear the collar for extended time, be sure and move it around and check for sore spots. They can sometimes irritate the dog's neck.
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