Jennifer Mullen wrote 12/17/2007 01:57 PM Re: whole items [Re: Angela Burrell ] #169184 - 12/17/2007 01:57 PM
Jennifer Mullen Webboard User Reg: 08-16-2007 Posts: 2365 Loc: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Offline	he had what i thought looked like bite marks - i thought they'd be permanent scars, but you can barely see them now Teagan!
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Melissa Thom wrote 12/17/2007 02:48 PM Re: whole items [Re: Jennifer Mullen ] #169210 - 12/17/2007 02:48 PM
Melissa Thom Webboard User Reg: 12-04-2007 Posts: 2781 Loc: Upper Left hand corner, USA Offline	I'm a little hesistant about trout due to some of the worms, flukes, and other things they carry naturally. Odds are it's a hatchery fish so the odds of these are slim but it's something to think about. My general rule of thumb with fish is that if I can make sushi out of it the dogs can eat it (pacific salmon are the exception) but otherwise I stick with giving them white fish and trout after a quick steam. Cornish hens are great. On rare occassions I can find them on sale for $1-1.50 each and I load up.
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Connie Sutherland wrote 12/17/2007 02:55 PM Re: whole items [Re: Melissa Thom ] #169215 - 12/17/2007 02:55 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	Farmed fish are the worst for disease, due to crowding, etc. They are also far lower in Omega 3 EFAs. I make it a point to buy only wild fish. (By the way, canned salmon is wild salmon.) Another forum member mentioned freezing fish at zero for a few days, and always checking for hooks. Melissa is of course correct about salmonids from anywhere west of the Cascade range. Cook them or don't feed them to dogs.
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Jennifer Mullen wrote 12/17/2007 02:55 PM Re: whole items [Re: Melissa Thom ] #169216 - 12/17/2007 02:55 PM
Jennifer Mullen Webboard User Reg: 08-16-2007 Posts: 2365 Loc: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Offline	you find cornish hens for $1-1.50 each???? i got RIPPED off then. wow. i would imagine the trout i got (rainbow trout) are hatchery fish. i was thinking of doing some ice fishing this winter, so no hatchery fish carry more parasites? would a good stint in the freezer address some of this? i don't generally think of hatchery fish as being cleaner than lake or river fish, the opposite in fact. hmmm. does anyone have any thoughts on feeding pike, walleye, or perch? they're some of the target fish if i do go ice fishing relatively near to toronto.... Teagan!
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Jennifer Mullen wrote 12/17/2007 02:57 PM Re: whole items [Re: Jennifer Mullen ] #169217 - 12/17/2007 02:57 PM
Jennifer Mullen Webboard User Reg: 08-16-2007 Posts: 2365 Loc: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Offline	is a salmonid a salmon? i'm way east of the cascades - do any ontarians have experience feeding their own catch to their dogs? i'm gonna stick those trout in the freezer when i get home. darn, i guess the dogs won't get them for a few weeks now. definitely going to have to the hens on xmas day then Teagan!
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Jennifer Mullen wrote 12/17/2007 03:17 PM Re: whole items [Re: Jennifer Mullen ] #169223 - 12/17/2007 03:17 PM
Jennifer Mullen Webboard User Reg: 08-16-2007 Posts: 2365 Loc: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Offline	so salmonids include trout and whitefish. hmmm, and there's lots of whitefish on georgian bay....i think the great lakes have high heavy metal levels (mercury or something or other. maybe the dogs will get minamata disease (sp?).). ps i am joking about minamata disease, but now i have dead kennedys in my head any ontarians that fish, could you pm if you have any knowledge about good fish vs. bad fish? confused me will greatly appreciate it! Teagan!
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Connie Sutherland wrote 12/17/2007 03:18 PM Re: whole items [Re: Jennifer Mullen ] #169224 - 12/17/2007 03:18 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	Salmon are salmonids, but so are trout.
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Connie Sutherland wrote 12/17/2007 03:21 PM Re: whole items [Re: Connie Sutherland ] #169226 - 12/17/2007 03:21 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	Quote: connie sutherland Salmon are salmonids, but so are trout. EDIT: I see you found that out. By good and bad fish, do you mean high in mercury and other heavy metals? The parasite that causes "salmon poisoning" is, so far, only west of the Cascade range.
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Connie Sutherland wrote 12/17/2007 03:22 PM Re: whole items [Re: Jennifer Mullen ] #169227 - 12/17/2007 03:22 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	Quote: Jennifer Mullen i don't generally think of hatchery fish as being cleaner than lake or river fish, the opposite in fact. hmmm. The opposite is correct.
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Jennifer Mullen wrote 12/17/2007 03:24 PM Re: whole items [Re: Connie Sutherland ] #169229 - 12/17/2007 03:24 PM
Jennifer Mullen Webboard User Reg: 08-16-2007 Posts: 2365 Loc: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Offline	yup - what fish would be safe to give to the dogs if i go fishing. i'm assuming w/grocery store fish, freeze - and that the same would hold true of fish i caught - but are there certain species i should just avoid altogether? this is what i'm getting confused about (not that it takes a lot, mind you ) i would like to 'catch' more of the dogs food, so that they're eating locally and more naturally/wholely. while i'd have to learn how to hunt, i already know how to fish (rock bass expert! whoo hoo!)....not well necessarily, but i know how - and i'd enjoy providing the dogs with food i harvested myself. Teagan!
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