 Re: Is pup too young for this?
[Re: John J. Miller ]
#169256 - 12/17/2007 04:28 PM |
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Plenty of benifits if you are going to train in a sport. Schutzhund prospects are encouraged to jump up and take a tug as puppies.
However, the jumping is kept to a minimum due to the wear and tear on joints. I encourage my pups to jump for the tug as well, but I start off low and slow and gradually build as the dogs grow and mature. 
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Re: Is pup too young for this?
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#169257 - 12/17/2007 04:30 PM |
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(I am getting the distinct impression by the responses that people don't understand the question or are picturing jumping as in jumping OVER something, hence the joint concerns)
I know exactly that jumping is jumping regarding a puppy and that you have to be careful with joints. Whether it be jumping onto/off of or over something. Period.
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Re: Is pup too young for this?
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#169259 - 12/17/2007 04:34 PM |
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Jenni, thanks. That's basically what I had in mind with an orbee on the end to tug. Based on what everyone says about joint problems I could keep it low enough that she wouldn't have to jump to reach it. Any harm in that??
I am trying to ease up on tugging with her myself, but would still like her to be able to enjoy a good tug.
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Re: Is pup too young for this?
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#169274 - 12/17/2007 05:48 PM |
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Springpole info: (I am getting the distinct impression by the responses that people don't understand the question or are picturing jumping as in jumping OVER something, hence the joint concerns)
http://www.workingpitbull.com/springpole.htm
I would wait until she's a little older, but this isn't the kind of jumping people are picturing...but hey, this isn't really a bulldog site, either.
I had no mind-picture of the pup jumping OVER anything. No big deal, but "this isn't the kind of jumping people are picturing" seems a little presumptuous to me.
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Re: Is pup too young for this?
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#169276 - 12/17/2007 05:49 PM |
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I would wait until she's a little older Carol, you forgot this part of my post .
Lynne, I think it's great that you're trying to devise stuff for her to do. It will save your possessions in the long run, lol, and probably your sanity. Build up to the exercises, as Diane states repeatedly; the dogs you see doing this are heavily conditioned-no "weekend warriors" who are likely to over-do it and get seriously injured. I wouldn't do this w/my 5mo old APBT, but I'd do it w/my 2yo. The little one is still too "soft" so I bet Chula is too, as she's going to be much larger and take even longer to physically mature. Keep it low enough so that it has some give (ie, is FUN), but she doesn't leave the ground.
Edit-just saw Connie's post. The Sch talk is what made me post that it's not OVER, as in Sch. jumps, A-frames, etc. I was merely pointing out that it's not over high obstacles and hard landings that Lynne was asking about.
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Re: Is pup too young for this?
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#169282 - 12/17/2007 06:13 PM |
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I would wait until she's a little older Carol, you forgot this part of my post .
No I did not forget. Please do not presume that I am misunderstanding anything or forgetting things. If I do that I will admit my own mistake.
The point here is that, once again, you seem to be saying with your post that jumping is appropriate if it is not over something. That is what I interpreted and I also interpreted your "disclaimer" of "I would wait until she's a little older" to mean just that, a "disclaimer"....kind of like, it is okay for her to jump, just not OVER something. No matter what kind of forum this is.
While letting a pup run and play on soft ground (not concrete) and stuff on their own is fine, giving them something to jump and tug at repetitively at anything less than a year old just may be asking for health issues down the road.
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Re: Is pup too young for this?
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#169283 - 12/17/2007 06:20 PM |
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Edit-just saw Connie's post. The Sch talk is what made me post that it's not OVER, as in Sch. jumps, A-frames, etc. I was merely pointing out that it's not over high obstacles and hard landings that Lynne was asking about.
And where is it that she asks specifically over high obstacles and hard landings?
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Re: Is pup too young for this?
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#169285 - 12/17/2007 06:25 PM |
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How would it be bad for the pup if there were a ball or tug at or below head level of the pup? No jumping of any type except what the pup would do on it’s own. I have questions of whether Chula would engage alone, but if so, I can picture circling and fun play. Just be careful of the amount of bungee on it. You wouldn’t want to cause an injury with a snap back (a stuck tooth for example?)
But at that age, mine loved nothing more than a basketball to run with, push at and even jump on a little. They loved it and it tired them out.
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Re: Is pup too young for this?
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#169286 - 12/17/2007 06:30 PM |
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How would it be bad for the pup if there were a ball or tug at or below head level of the pup? No jumping of any type except what the pup would do on it’s own.
I believe that most of the replies were in reponse to this:
"Can I make it so that she has to jump for it, or is she too young for that?"
And many people thought that no, one should not, and yes, she is too young. Regardless of the kind of jumping.
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Re: Is pup too young for this?
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#169287 - 12/17/2007 06:33 PM |
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There is nothing wrong with starting out low and slow, but to "give the puppy something to do to wear it out" is up to the handler. It should be low impact and include the handlers interaction. Like, obedience work, fetch games, walks and mind stimulating games. IMHO, a spring pole should be introduced when the pup is old enough for that kind of impact exercise.
Carrying and playing with a basketball is okay, because you can make a game out of it with your dog.
Plus, I do not understand why anyone would want to have the dog entertain itself at this (or any) age for that matter.
Yes, I am sure spring poles have their place and once the dog is older, great, go for it, but this is a crucial learning time and I for one would not want to miss the opportunity. Even if it meant a little extra work on my part to help make my dog or pup tired and happy. 
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