 Re: I have a question regarding a future purchase.
[Re: Rick Miller ]
#170462 - 12/23/2007 12:17 AM |
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Rick, not to answer for Carol but I don't see her on line now.
The UKC breed know as a Belgain Shepherd is divided into diffferent varieties. Mal, Terv, Gronendael, and Laekenois.
Originally any of the different varieties could be born to one litter, depending on sire and dam's coat.
AKC recognizes them as separate breeds.
If a litter is born with different coats, they can be registered with the UKC as varieties of the same Belgian Shepherd breed.
If I'm not quite correct with this info, Carol will be sure to kick me in the cyber shins.
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Re: I have a question regarding a future purchase.
[Re: Bob Scott ]
#170463 - 12/23/2007 12:19 AM |
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Nope Bob, this is correct.
If this litter does not turn out, Jesea will not be bred again. But we have HIGH hopes for the working abilities of these pups. Kim does all the technical stuff and I will just take lumps as the pups grow up.... 
It is gonna be FUN.... 
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Re: I have a question regarding a future purchase.
[Re: Carol Boche ]
#170464 - 12/23/2007 12:21 AM |
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Thanks Carol! That's very similar to working JRTs. You can get three different coats. Worker to worker! ;-)
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Re: I have a question regarding a future purchase.
[Re: Alex Corral ]
#170465 - 12/23/2007 12:29 AM |
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Regards Malinos , an Englishman i know Brings his Three G.S s and his Mal over to Belgium a few times a year to train at our Club.
A couple of Months ago his Malinos bitch gained her Schh 111 title at our Club over here in Belgium
He reckons its the first Schh 111 Mal in England right now, He was a happy man when he left to go home
But regards Alex question i still think a Border Collie would be the best Option if he wants Agitilty and family pet, there is hardly a better type of Dog for it,
If he wants it for Schh work then choose another breed
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Re: I have a question regarding a future purchase.
[Re: Steve Patrick ]
#170466 - 12/23/2007 12:32 AM |
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I would choose a working line GSD, selected by a responsible breeder, even before the border Collie. They are as much "over the top" as a lot of Mals, for a new dog owner.
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Re: I have a question regarding a future purchase.
[Re: Carol Boche ]
#170468 - 12/23/2007 01:14 AM |
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What more would you like described Rick? The description on Kim's site and my site say exactly what this litter is all about.
I was just looking for a little more of a description from someone direcly involved. Like this:
These dogs are SAR and Law Enforcement prospects only right now until we see what they turn out like.
If they are anything like Jesea, they will probably not go to first time Mal homes nor first time working dog homes.
Hoping to take a little edge out, but not much. Brenner is a great male, and Jesea is showing herself to be a good female as well.
Kim and I have discussed it extensively and decided to do it.
Sounds like a good idea to me. I hope it goes well for you all. Will you be calling them by a hybrid name or would these dogs be so close in heritage as Bob Scott talked about that they are just classified as the Belgian Shepards?
This was in no way a plug for my litter at all.
That's true, but I was a bit surprised to find your kennel at the top of the planned litters page! 
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Re: I have a question regarding a future purchase.
[Re: Rick Miller ]
#170469 - 12/23/2007 01:48 AM |
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Never found that way with ours Bob , not in all the years he was with us,
He was Obedinant' Loved to Work and he was more than a Good Pal
Never did and Agility with him but i know many friends did with there Border Collies, and they are very Quick to learn
Alex, will make up his own mind in the end, But it needs some thinking about and the imput from the good people here will help him in one way or the other i am sure
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Re: I have a question regarding a future purchase.
[Re: Steve Patrick ]
#170483 - 12/23/2007 08:38 AM |
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The op was asking about Malis, so I think he wants a dog similar in looks & temperment to a Mali. To that end, steering him towards the Terv is ideal. That breed will give him exactly what he's looking for and they excel at dog sports like agility. There are many great breeds of dogs, but lets respect what the OP is looking for and help him find a breed he will be happy with but will suit his tastes. Carol has also even steered him towards a great breeder. I hope the OP will take a good look at the Terv, they are wonderful dogs.
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Re: I have a question regarding a future purchase.
[Re: susan tuck ]
#170485 - 12/23/2007 08:52 AM |
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The op was asking about Malis, so I think he wants a dog similar in looks & temperment to a Mali. To that end, steering him towards the Terv is ideal. That breed will give him exactly what he's looking for and they excel at dog sports like agility. There are many great breeds of dogs, but lets respect what the OP is looking for and help him find a breed he will be happy with but will suit his tastes. Carol has also even steered him towards a great breeder. I hope the OP will take a good look at the Terv, they are wonderful dogs.
Thanks Susan,
I need to apologize to Ed and Cindy though. My information was truly for the OP to ask about this breed if they were interested.
I was obviously not thinking about the litters page when I posted the link, contrary to what some might believe.
Regardless of my "business" with this breeder, she is one of the trustworthy ones to discuss things with.
Again, I apologize to Ed and Cindy. My bad.
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Re: I have a question regarding a future purchase.
[Re: susan tuck ]
#170486 - 12/23/2007 08:55 AM |
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If he wants a Mal then he can get one. That is what he says then he questions if it will be suitable for his needs. If Susan, you have not owned a Border Collie or been around them as i have for 20 years or so overall, then you can only go on what you may have read , It is like all breeds of Dog we all know a little more about One Breed than another,
In my case the G.S Dogs are comparativly new to me just over a year in there company and that is a small time to get to know a breed of Dog.
The Terv may be ideal but then so is a Border Collie there are as you say a big choice
The Posters have put foreward there views it is now up to Alex as to which way he goes if any
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