Re: sub-q lumps and rubbing?
[Re: Kelly ]
#174291 - 01/10/2008 01:50 PM |
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thanks kelly luc will be all excited, attention from far away. (not that he's a little love sponge or anything)
i'm sure it's nothing, but it does scare me so much. but you guys are all right, it probably is fine, and it's better to know for sure. but luc, like my oldest cat mitch, isn't allowed to get sick (okay, mitch has herpes, asthma, and chronic renal failure (not to mention no teeth and three legs), but he's not sick sick). luc can't get sick sick either, he's my partner!
Teagan!
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Re: sub-q lumps and rubbing?
[Re: Jennifer Mullen ]
#174293 - 01/10/2008 01:51 PM |
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My husband and I use Indian Herb http://www.lifelinewater.com on any moles that look like they may be cancerous, if they are cancerous it kills them and they come out root and all. If it isn't cancer the Herb doesn't hurt them. My husband has also taken it internally to eliminate any possibility of cancer.
I wouldn't hesitate to give any of my dogs Indian Herb if I suspected they had cancer. A vial is $55 with shipping, which which do hundreds of moles and one 20 day internal treatment for people.
For lumps on a dog I would do the internal treatment.
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Re: sub-q lumps and rubbing?
[Re: Debbie Bruce ]
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That water sounds interesting,what is in it?
I will go on line and see what it says. But I was just curious? Is is safe for dogs?
Sharon Empson
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Re: sub-q lumps and rubbing?
[Re: Sharon Empson ]
#174321 - 01/10/2008 04:35 PM |
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Jennifer
I had a dog with cancer. I did what you want to do. wait and see. I did show the lump to the vet who clearly was not happy about the lump but it was my first experience with cancer. The vet said to wait and see too. (If I would have known then what I know now, I would have been way more aggressive). Anyway we waited until it got so big that it was in her way to remove it. By then it was too late and had spread into her bloodstream. The cancer was on her jaw which we did remove surgically and had radiation, but it was too late. If I would have aggressively treated it from the beginning she would not have died.
My point here is that you need to go to the vet ASAP, remember the earlier a cancer is detected the better your chances of beating it.
Playing the "oh I hope it's nothing, so I'll wait and see if it changes size/shape" game could be deadly for your dog. (Also, it could be changing shape toward the inside of the dog and you wouldn't be able to see it).
I do have some light to offer: in my research I did on doggie cancer, the place where you have described the lump to be is not a common site for cancers.
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Re: sub-q lumps and rubbing?
[Re: Debbie Bruce ]
#174329 - 01/10/2008 05:16 PM |
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My husband and I use Indian Herb http://www.lifelinewater.com on any moles that look like they may be cancerous, if they are cancerous it kills them and they come out root and all. If it isn't cancer the Herb doesn't hurt them. My husband has also taken it internally to eliminate any possibility of cancer.
I wouldn't hesitate to give any of my dogs Indian Herb if I suspected they had cancer. A vial is $55 with shipping, which which do hundreds of moles and one 20 day internal treatment for people.
For lumps on a dog I would do the internal treatment.
Lumps on a dog have many possible triggers. I think it would be a bad plan to put off a diagnosis while using what may be an excellent herbal therapy, because it may well be something else that needs treatment.
Say it was (for example) a boil, or anything else that was infected..... it would not be good to leave it to fester while taking an herbal cancer treatment.
JMO.
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Re: sub-q lumps and rubbing?
[Re: Sharon Empson ]
#174359 - 01/10/2008 09:27 PM |
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That water sounds interesting,what is in it?
I will go on line and see what it says. But I was just curious? Is is safe for dogs?
The Indian Herb is a salve, it has a zinc base, chickory, and other herbs. I can't read the label on mine anymore.
The catalytic water is something else, I've never used it.
My husband and I use Indian Herb http://www.lifelinewater.com on any moles that look like they may be cancerous, if they are cancerous it kills them and they come out root and all. If it isn't cancer the Herb doesn't hurt them. My husband has also taken it internally to eliminate any possibility of cancer.
I wouldn't hesitate to give any of my dogs Indian Herb if I suspected they had cancer. A vial is $55 with shipping, which which do hundreds of moles and one 20 day internal treatment for people.
For lumps on a dog I would do the internal treatment.
Lumps on a dog have many possible triggers. I think it would be a bad plan to put off a diagnosis while using what may be an excellent herbal therapy, because it may well be something else that needs treatment.
Say it was (for example) a boil, or anything else that was infected..... it would not be good to leave it to fester while taking an herbal cancer treatment.
JMO.
Good point Connie, thanks. :smile:
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But this kind of alternative possibility is always welcome (to me, anyway) ....
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Re: sub-q lumps and rubbing?
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Glad you are going in to have it looked at. My old girl Tessa had a sub-q lump around her microchip and a "wart" on her chest. I had her into the vet and had them aspirated. The wart had mast cells in it so I had her in a few days later to have them both removed and biopsied. Luckily, the results came back Monday and the one around the microchip was nothing and the one on the shoulder was benign.
My old girl checking out her 10th B-day gift - custom dog steps for her spoiled self <vbg>:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2059/2099216080_7af7d3d7fa_b.jpg
Hope the results are as good or better for you!
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Re: sub-q lumps and rubbing?
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#174392 - 01/10/2008 11:10 PM |
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Brief hijack:
Those steps are awesome, Ingrid. I have "built" them from sofa cushions, etc., in the past, and I was thrilled to discover those carpeted dog-steps.
People with young dogs might not see the point, since the dog is probably not even supposed to be on the bed or sofa anyway.
But when a senior has earned furniture privileges and then cannot get up and down from the soft spots that make the old joints feel so much better ... well, it's not fair.
I hope she loves her present.
And back to sub-q lumps...
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Re: sub-q lumps and rubbing?
[Re: Connie Sutherland ]
#174434 - 01/11/2008 07:56 AM |
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angela, i'm glad it's not a common spot! i'm sorry about your dog though, that's very hard. i'm glad i'm taking luc in now, even though i am a little freaked out. i'm going to ask for a needle biopsy, not just a physical exam of it, based on that.
ingrid - that does make me feel better i'm taking luc in.
(and wow, those steps are cool! teagan doesn't have furniture privileges or she'd be all over that (she thinks she should have them, heh). luc's allowed on the bed about once a month for an hour or so but he's still spry.)
debbie - interesting (though hopefully we won't need to use it)
i'm sure it's nothing, but i am all nervous now
Teagan!
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