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[Re: Connie Sutherland ]
#175554 - 01/16/2008 07:04 AM |
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While you address this, I just want to interject that I'd be giving any treats like that in the crate, and there would be no interaction between the dog and the child without me right there, and that even then, the child wouldn't be close. JMO.
Is this a rug that the dog views as her place or her mat or bed? Or just a rug? Did the dog have a chew-thing the second time, too?
Everyone, thanks for the info. I quoted Connie because she hit a few points.
Connie, 2nd time no chew item. I now do think she views the rug as hers...
Randy, my son is never allowed to play with or interact w/ the pup on his own...
I will stop giving her any chew items outside the crate, and in fact I am going to phase them out entirely.
One question regarding pack structure corrections: when I give one, should I be giving any verbal command w/ it? Like a firm 'NO'? Or will the physical correction get the point across?
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Re: Need help here...
[Re: Sandy Moore ]
#175555 - 01/16/2008 07:13 AM |
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Going over a dog like your son did when they're jealous of and guarding a chew or bone will most definitely be a provocation to a dog.
Sandy, I know this for sure, and this first instance occurred when I was standing right by the dog. My point is, these things can happen so fast and I can't depend on my 5 year old to remember not to lean over the dog, etc., etc. He just doesn't remember this stuff yet, so I need to make sure this doesn't happen again...
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Re: Need help here...
[Re: John Corbett ]
#175557 - 01/16/2008 07:24 AM |
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John Corbett, all excellent points. Thanks for your suggestions...
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Re: Need help here...
[Re: Carol Boche ]
#175558 - 01/16/2008 07:27 AM |
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Lynne,
I know you can do this. Don't get discouraged or upset, or your dog will know since "everything flows down the leash".
You will be great. 
Carol, you are right, and thanks for the morale booster! I need that as much as anything right now.
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Re: Need help here...
[Re: Lynne Barrows ]
#175559 - 01/16/2008 07:30 AM |
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So, where do I go from here? I am wavering at this point; my first concern has to be for my son, but I really feel like I am failing this pup.
IMO, you are NOT failing this pup, the pup is doing what it does, genetically as a canine...perhaps some of this has been encouraged inadvertantly by you (ie: whimpy verbal correction when this behavior caught you off guard)
HOWEVER. You would not be here getting good information if you were failing this pup.
Keep in mind you are this dog's leader. Let her know you will not tolerate this behaviour. IMO, it is likley any fear or hesitation or reluctance to quickly, swiftly and matter of factly (no emotion) deal with this issue, will fuel this pup's fire.
You control this dog's life, remember?
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Re: Need help here...
[Re: Michele McAtee ]
#175560 - 01/16/2008 07:36 AM |
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Lynne, you and I posted at the same time...
Did I just totally shadow what Carol said? I think I did!!! Yup, what Carol said!
(and I'll second again the "you can do this" part)
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Re: Need help here...
[Re: Michele McAtee ]
#175561 - 01/16/2008 07:37 AM |
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IMO, it is likley any fear or hesitation or reluctance to quickly, swiftly and matter of factly (no emotion) deal with this issue, will fuel this pup's fire.
Yep, you are right; I know from my own issues w/ her that this is the case. Anything BUT a firm, swift correction empowers her and escalates the unwanted behavior...
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Re: Need help here...
[Re: Lynne Barrows ]
#175565 - 01/16/2008 08:20 AM |
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This is a subject I take very seriously, as I too have a young child and have a dog who has exhibited similiar behaviour. He's tried it with me too.
It was easy in my case, given my situation, to fall prey to fear, especially involving a child. But I will say now that I've developed my skills at being confidant, the one who is in charge, my dog is making excellent progress...of course using extreme prudence is key too. 
Keep us posted.
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Re: Need help here...
[Re: Michele McAtee ]
#175566 - 01/16/2008 08:29 AM |
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Hi Lynne,
I'm in complete agreement that when you have Chula out of her crate in the house, she should always be wearing her prong collar and drag line. You and I both have bullmastiff mix dogs (although Nickie is a little older than Chula - 17 months now). He is still learning nice house manners and I find that if I have him on the prong/drag line, I have very few issues with him. We do not have any children so do not have that issue, but we really have to be on our toes with him trying to "test the waters" so to speak. We also had a problem a few months ago with the rawhide chews - he would see me approach him to take it away and he would run from me and gulp down the remaining piece. For fear of him choking to death on the darn things, I no longer bring them home from the store. He gets a large, heavy-duty Kong bone to chew on and is quite happy with that. Also he lets me remove it from him whenever I want to.
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Re: Need help here...
[Re: Lynne Barrows ]
#175582 - 01/16/2008 09:46 AM |
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Lynne,
You are not in any way failing your dog. You supervise all interaction, and therefore caught the very beginning stages of a rank issue involving your son and immediately took action by ensuring you have 100% control (prong) during the interaction with your son and also asked for input from others as well. Others who have provided good advice I might add. Safe interaction between real dogs (not barely live versions of stuffed animals) and children takes a lot of management and socialization for both dog and child. Keep drilling into your sons head proper behavior around the dog and keep reinforcing your son as an extension of your own rank. I would think about having your son with you and have him tell the dog to sit and eventually down before he gets to go outside and at mealtime prior to putting the food down (in the crate of course). In addition, if the dog takes treats without fingers attached I'd have your son do a lot of inductive OB for food/treats with the dog.
John
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