Re: Question for the RAW feeders ~ Is this necessary
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#177751 - 01/28/2008 09:52 AM |
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For example, I've never seen chicken necks for more than 69 cents per pound, and even that's on the high side compared to what some people find.
Sharon, I get necks and backs for FREE from my butcher since there's really no other demand for them in my area. He didn't advertise that he gives them away, but I would call local butchers and ask. Can't hurt and you might get a good deal that way.
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Re: Question for the RAW feeders ~ Is this necessary
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#177753 - 01/28/2008 09:55 AM |
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Usually a premade ground raw product is going to cost from 3 to 10 times what you would pay if you put together the ingredients yourself.
If you have the money for it, and your dog does well on it then for a new raw feeder it may be worth it for the convenience and peace of mind.
I don't like the dogs eating a big LUMP of mushed up food, I think it's healthier for them psychologically and physically to have to crunch up their meals. it prepares their stomach for digestion, which is where the process starts in dogs. In humans, digestion starts in the mouth....not so for dogs.
I have used various ground raw products on occasion, to add variety I couldn't get any other way or when traveling and I'm short on time to package up regular meals for my dogs.
No, I really don't have the extra money to put into it. Especially if I am able to accomplish the same thing for a cheaper price.
He did say that it is a "course ground". My dog did get used to chewing bones very quickly though. At first he acted like he didn't know what to do but he has gotton the hang of it.
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Re: Question for the RAW feeders ~ Is this necessa
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#177755 - 01/28/2008 10:04 AM |
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CHICKEN & VEGETABLE
INGREDIENTS: Chicken, Chicken Liver, Chicken Hearts, Chicken Gizzards, sweet potato, broccoli, flax (linseed) meal, rice bran, tomato pumice (dry), sunflower meal, egg powder, carrot powder, dried kelp, choline chloride, manganese sulfate, zinc sulfate, sodium selenite, vitamin e supplement, copper sulfate, niacin, iron sulfate, vitamin a supplement, vitamin d supplement, calcium pantothenate, riboflavin, biotin, folic acid, pryidoxine hcl, thiamine mononitrate, calcium iodate, cobalt sulfate, vitamin b12 supplement.
Guaranteed Analysis, As Fed
Crude Protein (Min.) 13% Crude Fiber (Max.) 1%
Crude Fat (Min.) 10% Moisture (Max.) 70%
There are other flavors but I just posted one so you can get the idea of what is included.
In your opinions, would I do just as good with the diet that I have been giving Chicken/vitamin E/Fish oil omega 3& 6/ occasional yogurt/veggies/fruits ?
Also, I believe that my dog is allergic to some type of grain. The vet suggusted corn allergies but I cut corn out and still had problems. Since I have been feeding raw chicken ~ he has not had any scratching/biting problems -
(this food has rice)
He is going to give me a few free samples to try when I go to pick up my chicken backs this week.
What do you think???
Shannon
There is no protein variety in this food, aside from everything else. As has been mentioned, maybe it's a great food, but even if it is, it's no greater than food you can put together yourself.... and it needs different protein sources, too.
I might use a little pre-made as a source of variety if it's handy and I think it's good, but this is just poultry, which I already use for most of my dogs' RMBs.
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Re: Question for the RAW feeders ~ Is this necessa
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#177757 - 01/28/2008 10:14 AM |
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Re: Question for the RAW feeders ~ Is this necessary
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For example, I've never seen chicken necks for more than 69 cents per pound, and even that's on the high side compared to what some people find.
Sharon, I get necks and backs for FREE from my butcher since there's really no other demand for them in my area. He didn't advertise that he gives them away, but I would call local butchers and ask. Can't hurt and you might get a good deal that way.
Lucky you ~ Free necks & backs. I'm jealous
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Re: Question for the RAW feeders ~ Is this necessa
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Just an FYI , according to the website, there are like 5 or 6 varieties. They range from free range buffalo and free range turkey, to beef and chicken. Individual and mixtures of each.
I still think that it would be way cheaper to do it your self, but I can see where this would be handy when traveling or just starting out.
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Re: Question for the RAW feeders ~ Is this necessa
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Just an FYI , according to the website, there are like 5 or 6 varieties. They range from free range buffalo and free range turkey, to beef and chicken. Individual and mixtures of each.
I still think that it would be way cheaper to do it your self, but I can see where this would be handy when traveling or just starting out.
Oh -- I read the post too quickly.
Sometimes I do wish that I could get just a little pre-made raw somewhere nearby with buffalo or something to to add to the variety.
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Re: Question for the RAW feeders ~ Is this necessary
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#177767 - 01/28/2008 10:53 AM |
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It's also pretty arrogant of him to imply that you can't balance your dog's food by yourself.....human children have much more complex dietary needs and who tells parents they can't possibly figure out how to feed their kids properly? It's a lot of marketing/brainwashing crap IMHO. Even if your dog's diet is slightly unbalanced, if you're giving him raw, human-grade meats, it's a lot better for him than manufactured 'stuff'.
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Re: Question for the RAW feeders ~ Is this necessary
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#177770 - 01/28/2008 11:33 AM |
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There is one crucial "balance." There's wiggle-room, of course, and daily "balance" (or even weekly balance) isn't a necessary goal, IMO. But I do read and hear (often) about people who switch to raw and leave out the bones, or assume that a recreational bone is all that's needed.
That all-meat, no-calcium diet is a nutritional catastrophe.
But yes, of course feeding what the dog needs is doable by anyone who can read a pretty simple guideline.
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Re: Question for the RAW feeders ~ Is this necessary
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It's also pretty arrogant of him to imply that you can't balance your dog's food by yourself.....human children have much more complex dietary needs and who tells parents they can't possibly figure out how to feed their kids properly? It's a lot of marketing/brainwashing crap IMHO. Even if your dog's diet is slightly unbalanced, if you're giving him raw, human-grade meats, it's a lot better for him than manufactured 'stuff'.
I agree ~ When I look at what I feed myself and even my children ~ Our diet is not 100 % balanced every day but we do get what we need.... I wouldn't think feeding my dog should be much different.
There is one crucial "balance." There's wiggle-room, of course, and daily "balance" (or even weekly balance) isn't a necessary goal, IMO. But I do read and hear (often) about people who switch to raw and leave out the bones, or assume that a recreational bone is all that's needed.
That all-meat, no-calcium diet is a nutritional catastrophe.
But yes, of course feeding what the dog needs is doable by anyone who can read a pretty simple guideline.
From what I am feeling right now, I think I may just stick to my original game plan of feeding him myself. I am still doing some research and I just ordered a book. If what I am doing is just as good as what "their" premade meal provides; then I'm going to do it myself.
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