Re: 11 month old pup with diarrhea
[Re: David Chase ]
#180693 - 02/14/2008 09:54 AM |
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Yes, if you think of it, post the med.
Yes, it's a process.... it's hard when the dog refuses to say "OK, now I feel better," or "No, the liver makes it worse," or ANYTHING.
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Re: 11 month old pup with diarrhea
[Re: Connie Sutherland ]
#181452 - 02/19/2008 08:58 AM |
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just a quick update... Mierra seems to be doing better. I have had her on a rice and boiled chick. mix for about a week now. She seems to be passing pretty solid logs. I'm wondering if it is okay to start slowly re-introducing raw. I'm wondering how you guys would recommend doing this. I have beef liver, chicken quarters,chicken liver and hearts. Should I cook everything that doesnt contain a bone and give it to her like that.. Any suggestions.?
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Re: 11 month old pup with diarrhea
[Re: David Chase ]
#181453 - 02/19/2008 09:00 AM |
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ohhh and I forgot to address the "bacterial inbalance" the doc perscribed "playrl" dunno if I should give her this or not. what do you guys think.. is it just a money making thing...
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Re: 11 month old pup with diarrhea
[Re: David Chase ]
#181456 - 02/19/2008 09:10 AM |
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I would start with chicken with most of the skin removed and I would use some breast meat as well. Skin and fat seem to play a big part in loose stools when it is not introduced slowly.
I would not introduce organ meats for a few days and when you do, start with chicken livers. I consider hearts a muscle meat so those may be okay to give as well.
Starting back slowly will allow you to figure out if it is any one "item" that gives her the runs.
If you give Salmon oil and E, I would start that out slowly as well, as well as any other supplements.
I am not familiar with the medication the vet gave you so I cannot comment on that. Sorry.
I just tried to google "plaryl" and it keeps coming back as "nothing found to match". Are you sure the spelling is correct or is there another name for it?
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Re: 11 month old pup with diarrhea
[Re: Carol Boche ]
#181458 - 02/19/2008 09:29 AM |
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Thanks for your suggestions.. I do suppliment her food with salmon oil, kelp, alphelfa,vit e, vit c. She seems okay with these.I'll check how she's doing at lunch and will go from there.. I hope it was just somethin she ate.. Vet didnt seem to concerned with intestinal blockage..
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Re: 11 month old pup with diarrhea
[Re: David Chase ]
#185278 - 03/11/2008 07:52 AM |
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Giving an update on my pups diarrhea ordeal... I'm at my witts end here. I have been nursing this diarrhea issue for weeks now. I'll give a brief history.. I have an 11 month old gsd that has been on RMB diet for about 6 months now. Recently she has become very finicky with what food she can handle. She has went from power diarrhea to pudding to semi solid and back again. Ihave tried everything.. pumpkin, immodium (used 2 times), rice and chicken, boiled chicken.. ect. I have to admit she is better but when she poops sometimes it is solid then it will taper off into pudding.I have already taken her to the vet once for this and the vet wrote it off as a dietary indiscission(told vet the dog was on RMB) she didn't like to hear that but soon stopped pushing the issue. So What should I do? I hear alot of people suggesting dropping off a stool sample, but what shouLd i ask the vet to check for? What are some shortcomings to feeding raw? Possible Salmanilla poisoning? I need to clear this up because I am getting railroaded for even feeding my dog any bones, but they are usually misinformed, but it does get a bit tiring hearing how I"m mistreating my dog.. Please help.....
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Re: 11 month old pup with diarrhea
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#185301 - 03/11/2008 09:17 AM |
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I would want a fecal done for salmonella, coccidia, giardia, all the worms and anything else that can be screened lol.
Do you give her acidopholous, that is always good for restoring intestinal balance and all around health.
My pup had a major intestinal imbalance of bacteria as well as whip and hookworms and coccidia. I held off on feeding raw for several months to let the medicine do its job and his intestines get back to a healthy state.
We are just now introducing some raw beef as that is less likely to be high in salmonella, or other nasties.
I also make sure I deep freeze all the meet for him for at least a full week if not longer to help kill stuff off.
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Re: 11 month old pup with diarrhea
[Re: David Chase ]
#185307 - 03/11/2008 09:35 AM |
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David, I'm not sure what you mean by dietary "indiscission"? Because of the spelling, I don't know if you mean "indecision" or "indigestion". But I'll bet you 100 to 1 that it's not the raw food.
I would change vets and get one that doesn't "write off" diarrhea as anything, but does a full analysis of the stool. Your pup has something more than likely and because your vet is lax and blaming it on the diet, you won't get full or accurate reports from any sample you bring in cause they probably don't take you seriously and won't do the cultures/floats you request.
So find a new vet - they're prolific - try to find one who gives a dang about your dog. With a problem such as your dog has, I find no reason to tell the new vet what you feed, because I don't believe it's the raw food. Your pup could just as easily have diarrhea from kibble. It's not the food that's the cause, it's something else.
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Re: 11 month old pup with diarrhea
[Re: Sandy Moore ]
#185388 - 03/11/2008 12:35 PM |
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Thanks for the replies. I checked on Mierra at lunch and she went out and went pee and poo... She had semi firm stool. I was actually surprised. I have been slowly returning to raw. I has been feeding chicken backs for 2 days now. I was giving her pumpkin but i have since stopped. Im just going to feed chickenbacks and the appropriate suppliments. Lowering her C to 1000 eu or whatever the units are.. I do have a question.. someone mentioned their dog had a serious bacterial imbalance.. When I first took her they did take a stool sample and they said "everything looked okay" exept they did say there was a slight bacterial imbalance. They gave her five pills.. I was hesitent to give them to her because out of my ignorance I thought maybe the vet was just tryin to sell some meds.. I could be wrong though. I wonder if I should start them.. Ill keep you guys informed.
P.s. sorry bout the spelling.. I was tryin to spell dietary indiscression... ( Like I fed her something to get her sick or maybe she got some trash.)
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Re: 11 month old pup with diarrhea
[Re: David Chase ]
#185391 - 03/11/2008 12:44 PM |
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Another stool sample. You want to keep watching. I too would change vets and then get all the fecal tests Jennifer listed done.
And what Sandy says:
I would change vets and get one that doesn't "write off" diarrhea as anything, but does a full analysis of the stool. Your pup has something more than likely and because your vet is lax and blaming it on the diet, you won't get full or accurate reports from any sample you bring in cause they probably don't take you seriously and won't do the cultures/floats you request. END
is too true.
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