Re: Sister adopting PB
[Re: Jenni Williams ]
#180584 - 02/13/2008 05:11 PM |
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Hey Jenni, yeah I would agree and would think even just having in your custody. Again though, on the second link from my original post (Denver city webiste), it states:
"However, it is permissible to transport a pit bull directly through Denver, from a starting point outside of Denver to another destination outside of Denver, provided that the pit bull dog remains in the vehicle. Copies of the three official breed standards are available at the Denver Municipal Animal Shelter, located at 678 South Jason Street. For more information, call 303-698-0076."
I will have to stop by that shelter and pick up what ever info I can. If my sister gets the dog (which looks like she is), she knows better and understands not to bring it to this damn city and take him out of the vehicle.
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Re: Sister adopting PB
[Re: Alex Corral ]
#180705 - 02/14/2008 10:35 AM |
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This whole thing has me indescribably ticked. So what did the geniuses do with the pits that were there before the ban took place? What happened to these dogs? Did anyone ever report on that? Did anyone interview any of the owners to find this out, or was the media restricted from reporting on camera interviews with grieving owners, or did they care? I'd like to know.
Alex, according to this statement in the link Jenni gave "A pit bull is defined in the ordinance as any dog that is an American Pit Bull Terrier, an American Staffordshire Terrier, a Straffordshire Bull Terrier, or any dog displaying the majority of physical traits of any one or more of these breeds ", your Boxer (except for his beautiful head) or any of several short haired dogs could fall under that description, for those who don't know dog breeds.
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Re: Sister adopting PB
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#180719 - 02/14/2008 11:11 AM |
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Sandy,
It was reported on and it was really sad. People either had to move or give up their dog. One poor guy moved from Denver to save his dogs only to find the nearby place he moved to enacted the same ban. He couldn't afford to move again so he had to give his dogs up.
I think several no-kill pit rescues cropped up in the wake of this, specifically to help re-home Denver pits.
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Re: Sister adopting PB
[Re: Sarah Morris ]
#180721 - 02/14/2008 11:16 AM |
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Sometimes, Sarah, I don't know whether to cry or be angry. Both, I guess. Your post just made tears well up. I keep thinking this type of stuff just can't happen here. I'm now constantly being disappointed.
Alex, your sister needs to just keep her PB out of Denver. No telling what some yahoo might do to make problems for her (see the PB in the car, report it, she gets chased down the freeway by a cop, that type of thing), or some yahoo who has authority but doesn't know a PB from a hole in the ground and doesn't care that she's just visiting. Now we can't travel from state to state????????
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Re: Sister adopting PB
[Re: Alex Corral ]
#180723 - 02/14/2008 11:21 AM |
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Hi Alex, I'm not trying to be a smarta$$, honest. But could it be that your sister is actually adopting a boxer/lab mix, and not a pit? I mean, what does the dog look like? Most people don't/can't recognize a pitbull or staffordshire terrier if the dog is sitting right in front of them. I don't encourage dishonesty, but the Denver BSL is just plain old BS to me.
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Re: Sister adopting PB
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#180736 - 02/14/2008 12:08 PM |
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the fact that most people can't recognize a pit can be good-but can also be very bad.
Sure, you could say that you pit was really a lab mix,
but at the same time, everyone else could say that your true lab mix is a pit mix because of the tan color, short hair and maybe he has a big head.
i get so many people swearing up and down that my Bart is a pit bull.
Someone just yesterday saw me walking him with a prong and a remote collar, and told me how he looked like a fighting dog, and actually asked me if i wanted to have him fight their dog.
Bart is a scraggly scrawny wire haired disney looking dog!
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Re: Sister adopting PB
[Re: Sandy Moore ]
#180738 - 02/14/2008 12:09 PM |
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This whole thing has me indescribably ticked. So what did the geniuses do with the pits that were there before the ban took place? What happened to these dogs? Did anyone ever report on that? Did anyone interview any of the owners to find this out, or was the media restricted from reporting on camera interviews with grieving owners, or did they care? I'd like to know.
Sandy, as Sarah stated, it WAS pretty bad. They gave everyone in the city 30 days to remove their dog, then after those 30 days, they began to pretty much "hunt" these animals. They had reports on where Pits lived from idiot neighbors and would pretty much go and demand for the dog. There were lots of stories of people holding on to their dog and getting it ripped from their arms or the leash pryed from their hands. I had a friend or knew of friends of friends who were cited and/or arrested for trying to elude animal control to get their dog out of the city limits. It was like a real holocaust/genocide ordeal. Really really sad to see. Then they came up with some rediculous "grandfather clause" which consisted of any Pitbull registered prior to 1990 (I think) was exempt. Dear Lord, that dog would've been at least 15 yrs old by the 2005 ban. The majority of Denver suburbs still allow Pits, just Denver is really bad about it. Auora is another suburb that is just as bad if not worse, they have bans on more breeds than Denver.
Janice, no, that puppy is definitely a Pit. I can't find the link to the shelter anymore, but I have pics on my phone and it's definitely a Pit. He is a gorgeous fawn boy with white flash on his muzzle and has that distinct Pit jaw line & head.
I told my sis if she drives w/him anywhere, to NOT have him loose in the car & to use a plastic crate. I told her I'd buy it for her when she get's the dog. She is responsible, so I'm not worried too much about her. It's just the other people. It's really really sad to even be afraid to drive with your dog through a certain city. That just infuriates me.
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Re: Sister adopting PB
[Re: Alex Corral ]
#180744 - 02/14/2008 12:18 PM |
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Alex, I was not suggesting the dog was not a pit. I was actually suggesting your sister not say so, when passing through Denver, with it's BS BSL. I have seen dogs in shelters that were obvious pits or staffordshire terriers, that were labeled as boxer/lab mixes, or mastiff/lab mixes. I don't know if the AC people labeled them wrong purposely, or if even the people in AC can't tell one breed from another.
Mallory, you are right, recognition, or the lack thereof, works both ways. It's a bad thing that Denver has done, all right.
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Re: Sister adopting PB
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#180748 - 02/14/2008 12:27 PM |
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Ahhhhhhh.... okay, gotcha gotcha gotcha. Lol.. Yeah, first thing I told her was if anyone asked her, it's a Patterdale/Boxer mix.
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