Jennifer Marshal wrote 02/26/2008 06:04 PM Re: Prong collar on a 5 month old pup for walking [Re: Carol Boche ] #182718 - 02/26/2008 06:04 PM
Jennifer Marshal Webboard User Reg: 08-02-2007 Posts: 1078 Loc: Southern Oregon Offline	Ah yes I do agree that making the walk possitive if the pup is afraid or uncertain. I guess I am still confused if the pup only pulls in the direction of home or just when you turn to go in another direction he bounds to the end of the leash?
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Rich Pallechio wrote 02/26/2008 06:34 PM Re: Prong collar on a 5 month old pup for walking [Re: Chris Green ] #182723 - 02/26/2008 06:34 PM
Rich Pallechio Webboard User Reg: 05-08-2006 Posts: 687 Loc: Washington Offline	I think we started using a prong on our pup when he was 3 or 4 months old. A friend of mine who has raised GSD's brought me one. I refused to use it at first, because it looked like something from a Vincent Price movie. But he constantly pulled on the leash and was quite willing to choke himself on a choke collar. So we finally put the prong collar on him. And the pulling went away. No corrections, just the prong. It was a miracle. We saw the behavior you are talking about when we went for a walk from time to time. He outgrew it fairly quickly though. http://home.comcast.net/~rrpallechio/Hans/hans_signature.jpg
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Carol Boche wrote 02/26/2008 06:39 PM Re: Prong collar on a 5 month old pup for walking [Re: Rich Pallechio ] #182724 - 02/26/2008 06:39 PM
Carol Boche Webboard User Reg: 10-30-2005 Posts: 4531 Loc: South Dakota, USA Offline	I will tell you all a secret.....I ordered a small prong collar today...... More for having little Em wear it and get used to it, just like the e-collar dummy she wears. Until The Tale of the Lioness is told, the Story will Always Glorfy the Hunter
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Sandy Moore wrote 02/26/2008 08:21 PM Re: Prong collar on a 5 month old pup for walking [Re: Carol Boche ] #182742 - 02/26/2008 08:21 PM
Sandy Moore Webboard User Reg: 07-25-2006 Posts: 2665 Loc: AZ Offline	I had a prong on Lear at 5 months and have no regrets. It helped him, and me, on walks. No popping of the leash was even necessary. I had tried stopping, and had tried turning around in the opposite direction. Both didn't work, in fact those methods frustrated him and he would look at me with that unsettled look, the kind a dog gives you when what you're doing makes absolutely no sense to them and is taking the fun out of the task. I want to make sense to my dog and if he knows when we're walking forward that I keep stopping or turning around to go the other way, the walk isn't fun for him or me. The prong alleviated the pulling and we got to continue in a forward direction. Which made sense to both of us. Jennifer mentioned that she uses the stop method but not on walks. I agree with how she does it...not for walking.
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randy allen wrote 02/26/2008 09:08 PM Re: Prong collar on a 5 month old pup for walking [Re: Sandy Moore ] #182759 - 02/26/2008 09:08 PM
randy allen Webboard User Reg: 08-30-2007 Posts: 3283 Loc: Offline	Oh make no mistake, I'm not against pinch collars at all. What ever age the dog asks for it. As I read the op though, the dog only pulls toward home and prefers to walk to the rear otherwise. Just doesn't sound as clear cut as the puppy is pulling me everywhere scenerio. For the moment I would rather see the prongs put away for when the dog is somewhat more sure of himself. Just my opinon. If I'm not learning, I'm not paying attention. Randy
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Chris Green wrote 02/27/2008 12:26 PM Re: Prong collar on a 5 month old pup for walking [Re: randy allen ] #182851 - 02/27/2008 12:26 PM
Chris Green Webboard User Reg: 12-30-2007 Posts: 20 Loc: Georgia Offline	I've tried a gentle lead collar on him, but when it pulls his head back he violently lashes it in the opposite direction, this is constant. He never got used to it, and I thought the strap that goes across the nose was a little too close to his eyes. So, they don't really work that good. If you thought about getting of those don't, save your money. I'm not going to use the prong just yet I'm going to watch the video and see how we're doing in a couple of weeks
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Kim Condon wrote 02/27/2008 05:23 PM Re: Prong collar on a 5 month old pup for walking [Re: Chris Green ] #182930 - 02/27/2008 05:23 PM
Kim Condon Webboard User Reg: 10-18-2007 Posts: 47 Loc: North Carolina Offline	Just thought I'd add my two cents. I have just started using a prong on my 5.5 month old Mal (Ember's sister!) and I think this is the greatest invention in the world. I find that Mika is actually more confident with it on. She stops worrying about all the new things she's seeing and starts concentrating on me. I do not correct, I let her self-correct when she pulls. Up until now we have had to experience new things rather slowly, but now she is able to tolerate new people/sounds/dogs with less barking and more calm. And my shoulders are no longer being pulled from their sockets. Walking is more fun for both of us, I think.
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Jennifer Marshal wrote 02/27/2008 05:29 PM Re: Prong collar on a 5 month old pup for walking [Re: Kim Condon ] #182932 - 02/27/2008 05:29 PM
Jennifer Marshal Webboard User Reg: 08-02-2007 Posts: 1078 Loc: Southern Oregon Offline	Just to step in again.. I don't think prongs are evil or bad and I do use them. On puppies. Really I do But I also do not correct, I allow the pup to get used to the collar and self correct, but I only use them after the stop method on a flat collar. I still try to condition the pup that pulling gets them nowhere, first. Don't be afraid of the prong.. and Chris I'm glad you see the light regarding gentle leaders.
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Kori Bigge wrote 02/29/2008 06:34 PM Re: Prong collar on a 5 month old pup for walking [Re: Jennifer Marshal ] #183320 - 02/29/2008 06:34 PM
Kori Bigge Webboard User Reg: 10-08-2007 Posts: 611 Loc: Kansas Offline	I just recently started using a prong for Kodee (right before he turned 7 mos), during walks only (and sometimes short potty trips). I plan to use it for the correction phase of training later, when he's older (probably around 10-11 mos or so), but in the meantime, he was getting too strong for me to control without difficulty if he got excited and wanted to get to someone or another dog to greet (i.e. "jump up on") them. I conditioned him to the prong for 2 weeks like Ed recommends in the DVD, and when I finally started attaching the collar to the prong, he immediately figured out on his own (with NO corrections/pops on the leash) that if he pulled, the collar tightened. I don't see anything wrong with letting the dog self-correct for pulling at that 5 mos old. JMO. I agree with the other posters, though, that maybe you need to address why the dog seems reluctant to leave the house/yard. I can't really give advice on that, but it does seem strange to me... Good luck!
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Chris McMahon wrote 04/23/2008 06:33 PM Re: Prong collar on a 5 month old pup for walking [Re: Kori Bigge ] #192018 - 04/23/2008 06:33 PM
Chris McMahon Webboard User Reg: 08-04-2005 Posts: 84 Loc: Montana Offline	I am also a strong advocate of the prong collar but to me this situation sounds more like a puppy training issue. I would back up and use treats or whatever reward you use to keep at your side on the way out and use treats to keep pup at your side on the way back. Remember pups need the rewards early on so you can build up to correcting later. Sounds to me like pup isn't understanding that heel means heel all the time. Personnally I would go back to working on heeling with the dog using treats or some sort of reward for what you are looking for..... which is healing next to you. Not behind or in front of you.
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