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#17253 - 07/23/2002 09:37 AM |
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I agree with sch3fh2. I always have a rag with me and tell people the pup will chew on their hands and redirect it to the rag. When the pup get to be about 4-6 months it will slow down on the mouthyness.
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#17254 - 07/23/2002 10:49 AM |
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I agree as well........but a decision needs to made on how much mouthiness is acceptable. That's what my scruff-shake advice is based on. At what level do we re-direct and at what level do we say "enough". Otherwise, we need to arm with a rag or toy every person the pup comes in contact with, which is actually a pretty good idea!LOL
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#17255 - 07/23/2002 11:03 AM |
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That's exactly what I do - my "socialization" is not about petting and holding. It's mostly playing with others, so I only pick people who are willing to play with the puppy according to my rules, which are that the puppy always wins, and the human never pries the dog's mouth open or corrects him for biting. They just make the toy more attractive than the arm or leg.
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#17257 - 07/23/2002 11:23 AM |
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I'd like to get an opinion on when you should stop letting everyone pet your pup and only let people pet the dog when you say "ok" (for protection training purposes). I've heard and read several theories on this.
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#17258 - 07/23/2002 12:55 PM |
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I prefer NO ONE pets my pup (of course, in real life, that's not going to happen). Before everyone has a cow - I don't mean I want to keep my pup separated from everybody. I just mean I want the interactions between my dog and others to be one of play, with the pup the winner, not one of the pup submitting to being petted, held, picked up, etc by every Tom, Dick and Harry he meets. Socialization absolutely does NOT require that the pup get petted, and being petted puts the pup in a submissive posture both physically and mentally, which I don't want to reinforce.
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#17259 - 07/23/2002 01:50 PM |
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Sch3FH2, I too agree that it should always be on my terms and that the pup always comes out the winner in every encounter. So much drive can be tainted as to the pup not winning each encounter what ever it might be.
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#17260 - 07/23/2002 02:12 PM |
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Socialization absolutely does NOT require that the pup get petted, and being petted puts the pup in a submissive posture both physically and mentally, which I don't want to reinforce.
I never woulda figured. Of course, now that you put it in so many words I hear you loud and clear. I suppose the image I had in my head was of police dog demonstrations in which a bunch of excited 1st graders are fawning over it. To be honest, I'm not even sure where that came from; probably my mom's cousin's husband...long story. Of course, I suppose that's a different situation altogether, being a fully mature dog and all.
The pattern I'm extropolating is that the only terms on which ANMYTHING in this pup's/dog's life takes place are MINE.
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The pattern I'm extropolating is that the only terms on which ANMYTHING in this pup's/dog's life takes place are MINE.
This is how I prefer to keep it. My dogs whole world revolves around me. That doesn't mean we don't sociliaze, just that it's on my terms always. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
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i know you guys are most likely tired of hearing me talk and ask questions about this particular subjuect but,i'm a question asker. i gotta learn so here goes..... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
ok, about this socialization thing.......with a young pup. lets assume, up-to date on vaccinations. now hear me, not with all of it's vaccinations, but up to date with them.. also lets say about 11,12 weeks old and older. people say that you should let the pup meet many new people and have positive experiences with them and the pup should be shown many new things,places,etc...is this safe?
because with Sasha,ever since i brought her home she rode in the car with us, went to parks with us, petSmart.....every where,,it proved to be good for her as far as socialization and her confidense, because she was a very confident puppy who showed little or no fear with anything. but is it not good to do because of health reasons??
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