Jeff Cambeis wrote 05/10/2008 08:51 PM Re: Verbal Commands [Re: Connie Sutherland ] #194302 - 05/10/2008 08:51 PM
Jeff Cambeis Webboard User Reg: 03-12-2008 Posts: 159 Loc: Sacramento Offline	What happens if the guy who attacks you is German?
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Dennis Jones wrote 05/10/2008 08:53 PM Re: Verbal Commands [Re: Jeff Cambeis ] #194304 - 05/10/2008 08:53 PM
Dennis Jones Webboard User Reg: 06-13-2004 Posts: 3389 Loc: Richmond Va Offline	My father took care of all the German speakers that wanted to attack me
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Jeff Cambeis wrote 05/10/2008 08:55 PM Re: Verbal Commands [Re: Dennis Jones ] #194305 - 05/10/2008 08:55 PM
Jeff Cambeis Webboard User Reg: 03-12-2008 Posts: 159 Loc: Sacramento Offline	People tell my dog to do stuff all the time, 90% of the time she just ignores them, the other 10% she looks at them like they are stupid. Due to age of my children I get all sorts of parents and kids trying to imitate me giving my dog commands. I use it as distractions to keep me from getting annoyed.
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Dennis Jones wrote 05/10/2008 08:57 PM Re: Verbal Commands [Re: Connie Sutherland ] #194306 - 05/10/2008 08:57 PM
Dennis Jones Webboard User Reg: 06-13-2004 Posts: 3389 Loc: Richmond Va Offline	Quote: Connie Sutherland  Quote: L Allen Vaught ... Outside of protection training, say a very well trained and stable dog that is not protection trained, should a dog respond to stranger's commands? I mean, from a pack-perspective, isn't it ideal that the dog only responds to his leaders, even he isn't a protection dog? And another scenario: If a dog, not necessarily mine now, say a veteran trainers dog is in a protective situation against a stranger, and this stranger himself is an expert trainer, could the stranger redirect or abort commands of the dog (assuming the commands were known to the stranger)? No, the dog responds to you, his handler. You can even include other people giving commands in your distraction phase (high-level distraction). I would add not to take treats from strangers after the socialization period. Ed covers this in his vids
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L Allen Vaught wrote 05/10/2008 08:59 PM Re: Verbal Commands [Re: Connie Sutherland ] #194307 - 05/10/2008 08:59 PM
L Allen Vaught Webboard User Reg: 05-08-2008 Posts: 4 Loc: Offline	Quote: Connie Sutherland You can even include other people giving commands in your distraction phase (high-level distraction). Ah, this clears it up for me. Thank you.
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Matt Wyrick wrote 05/11/2008 12:36 AM Re: Verbal Commands [Re: L Allen Vaught ] #194318 - 05/11/2008 12:36 AM
Matt Wyrick Webboard User Reg: 04-29-2008 Posts: 207 Loc: Offline	I agree with the others. Once you have a good bond with the dog and if it has any protection potential it would ignore any command given by someone with bad intentions. Dogs pick up people's intentions faster than humans. My GSD Lady would take commands from just about anyone but the time her and my mother was alone and a guy came up insisting on using the phone inside there was nothing he could have said to keep from being eaten. Lady was the most mild mannered dog you ever saw but that night she was acting like a trained protection dog. She never acted like that before or after.
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Cameron Feathers wrote 05/13/2008 01:05 AM Re: Verbal Commands [Re: Cameron Feathers ] #194648 - 05/13/2008 01:05 AM
Cameron Feathers Webboard User Reg: 03-11-2008 Posts: 703 Loc: VA Offline	Quote: Cameron Feathers A lot of protection and working dogs have been taught their commands in another language... German, Dutch, Russian, I know one guy that uses Italian I lost internet connection in a bad storm the other day and just FINALLY got back on! I was in the middle of typing ...I know one guy that uses Italian; but these are all languages that they are familiar with and can use without stumbling over the commands. This website http://www.uwsp.edu/psych/dog/languag1.htm has sound files with the commands in three different languages so that you can learn them. But as already posted above, a well trained dog takes commands from his handler... ;-) When a flower doesn't bloom, you fix the environment in which it grows, not the flower.
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Johan Engelen wrote 05/13/2008 03:51 AM Re: Verbal Commands [Re: Cameron Feathers ] #194654 - 05/13/2008 03:51 AM
Johan Engelen Webboard User Reg: 06-11-2005 Posts: 398 Loc: Offline	When i'm present he will only listen to me. In fact he looks at me and if i give the (non-verbal) ok he'll follow the order If i'm not present and he's on his turf he will act like he's "master in command" except for the rest of the family ( my parents and my wife and son) Greetings Johan
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Dan Walker wrote 05/13/2008 01:41 PM Re: Verbal Commands [Re: Johan Engelen ] #194724 - 05/13/2008 01:41 PM
Dan Walker Webboard User Reg: 05-02-2008 Posts: 14 Loc: Upstate, NY Offline	My dog knows his commands in English. Would it be hard to retrain him in German or would that be to confusing for him? Would this be easily done or would it be more like starting from scratch? He is not used for protection or anything. I like the idea that his commands are things that are not in everyones daily vocabulary. Thanks, Dan
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Arik Kershenbaum wrote 05/17/2008 04:25 PM Re: Verbal Commands [Re: Dan Walker ] #195323 - 05/17/2008 04:25 PM
Arik Kershenbaum Webboard User Reg: 03-21-2008 Posts: 91 Loc: Galilee, Israel Offline	I spent most of my childhood in England, and two of my kids were born there, so we speak a lot of English at home too. We taught Darwin commands in English, and it's pretty funny when dog-experienced people come up to him and he won't even "sit" for them, lol. I guess it helps to train in a different language if you're taking him for a walk and there's a lot of dog owners around all giving orders, but unfortunately, that rarely happens here - most times the owners are nowhere to be seen. If you're bilingual, there's no problem partitioning different languages for different situations, you don't confuse them. When I've ever been in any kind of serious situation like Will mentioned, all my thoughts and commands were in Hebrew. Unfortunately, my Arabic is almost non-existent, so I've never even tried to use it! research.haifa.ac.il/~leon/html/Arik_Page.htm
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