Re: puppy language
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#17725 - 10/29/2002 08:44 PM |
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i was always taught that there weren't any" dumb"QUESTIONS, only dumb answers. well i got some intelligent answers, and some that proved that old adage to be gospel truth. i guess everyone has to BE SILLY on occasion. i don't mind being the BUTT end of your jokes. how about putting the shoe on the other foot. make light hearted remarks about how people from the north country , can butcher the english language. nice visiting with youse guyse. just jt.
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Re: puppy language
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#17726 - 10/29/2002 09:56 PM |
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Originally posted by JOHN NELSON:
make light hearted remarks about how people from the north country , can butcher the english language. nice visiting with youse guyse. just jt. I do that all the time about those yankees <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />
Being from South Louisiana, I got a right to pick at the Cajuns and rednecks, I earned it (besides, I have to put up with VanCamp)!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />
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Guest1 wrote 10/29/2002 11:08 PM
Re: puppy language
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#17727 - 10/29/2002 11:08 PM |
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Isn't Vancamp that guy who eats nutria?
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Re: puppy language
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#17728 - 10/30/2002 12:21 AM |
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It's gonna hit the fan now! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />
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Re: puppy language
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#17729 - 10/30/2002 02:18 AM |
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Eats them?
Fuuuak nah, I aeen't gonna ate dem litta bastuds. Ya'all 'er cruizin fer a bruizin. . .
Rednecks er haaard workin' durt farmmers, an it shou isn't right ya'alls raggin' on em. Dems is da lifeblood of America. . .whitout dem wheres would we be naow?
The smart Germans train their dogs in Czech.
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Re: puppy language
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#17730 - 10/30/2002 07:20 AM |
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Training in a foreign language may sound cool, but there is another issue involved. This is the fact that under stress you will often, if not usually, revert back to your native tongue. "Stress" may be something as simple as " my dog NEVER did that before", :-) on the field, or as serious as someone trying to do you or your dog real harm. Can you remember the correct command while trying to get another dog off of your dog's throat, stay untangled with the leash, figure out what the crazy s.o.b.'s owner is doing and grab your pepper spray all at the same time?
Experienced dogs are very "situational", and I dare say that a good SchH III dog can do a routine correctly even if you forget and give the wrong command, which happens pretty frequently. A PPD or PSD can and will face unknown situations, all of which simply cannot be forseen and trained for. If you train in your native tongue, you are much more likely to say the right thing at the right time...JMO.
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Re: puppy language
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#17731 - 10/30/2002 08:02 AM |
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Nothing worse sounding than a yankee trying to speak southern. It's kind of like a bad combover, ya just ain't a foolin anyone.
Ikor, I totally agree with you. I teach my dogs in English, or at least what we recognize as English here in the south. An officer under stress, with his world falling apart around him, has enough to worry about. It's pretty for show, but we are just working folk.
PS. Van Camp, that John Deere 6600 makes my dirt farmin a lot easier.
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Re: puppy language
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#17732 - 10/30/2002 08:11 AM |
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Ikor,
At this point I have a hard time training other people's dogs in English. Every thing comes out in German. Part of the purpose of training is to get familiar with the commands under stress. I have seen a lot of beginers with dogs and they tend to switch between languages and the dogs pick it up fine.
The idea that training a dog in another language wiil prevent the dog from responding to someone else just isn't the way it works. If nothing else the hand signals are uniform even if the commands are different. If you want to proof your dog against taking commands from some one else, train for it. Sooner or later you will need to have the dog respond to someone else, like a boarding situation or a Vet procedure. The thing I train my dogs for is if they are on leash and the leash is handed to someone else they will respond to that person. If I have the leash, or they are off lead they won't.
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Re: puppy language
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#17733 - 10/30/2002 10:47 AM |
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Originally posted by Richard Cannon:
At this point I have a hard time training other people's dogs in English. Every thing comes out in German. Part of the purpose of training is to get familiar with the commands under stress. I have seen a lot of beginers with dogs and they tend to switch between languages and the dogs pick it up fine. I resemble that remark. I noticed the other day when showing my son how to train his Lab that I was speaking in German. My poor kid was like "Dad?? what are you doing?" Needless to say, his Lab responds well to come, hier, sitz, platz, and foos. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />
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Re: puppy language
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#17734 - 10/30/2002 06:11 PM |
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o.k. learned moderators and fellow members. if we are through with the linguistics tutorial, i would like a consensus on my originalquestion. i.e. if you are intent on training a COMPANION dog, etc.etc.
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