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#195139 - 05/16/2008 07:54 AM |
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Nope you have DVG and/or WDA that you can join. If you join DVG, even if there are not any clubs in your are you may use your DVG scorebook at a USA trial. I get confused on WDA/USA--if you can use one scorebook at another's trial. There is some bad history between the two organizations and it gets a little crazy.
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Re: Gary Hanrahan
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#195142 - 05/16/2008 08:01 AM |
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Many thanks, Betty, I appreciate the info. 
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Re: Gary Hanrahan
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#195143 - 05/16/2008 08:17 AM |
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While the other two organizations do hold trials, WDA holds maybe 25 a year and DVG a few more, UScA holds many, many more trials all over the country, so if you are serious about competing, you need UScA.
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Re: Gary Hanrahan
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#195144 - 05/16/2008 08:22 AM |
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No, you can use a DVG scorebook at a USA trial if you are not a member of USA. I *think* you may have to be a member of USA to trial at a regional level or above, I'm not sure.
But I think the average member that just wants to have fun with their dog and trial at a club level would have no problem not belonging to USA if they choose not to.
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Re: Gary Hanrahan
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#195146 - 05/16/2008 08:30 AM |
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I keep wondering what is the 'Rest of the Story' on this incident.
First thing that seems odd is why a training director for a club in Birmingham would feel the need to drive 60 miles to Gadsden to do tracking for a club trial. Especially when that specific field is known to be leased for training by someone he has had, at best, 'poor relations' with in the past.
In any case, driving through the tracking field was the wrong thing to do. It punished the people who had nothing to do with this dispute.
Since the USA BOI has obviously informed the person who filed the charges of their decision -- the video has just been posted on You-Tube, we should see the BOI results shortly on the USA website.
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Re: Gary Hanrahan
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#195166 - 05/16/2008 10:50 AM |
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You all are being very nice to call the guy's actions "poor sportsmanship". It looks like a lot more than that to me, bordering on dangerous behavior.
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#195176 - 05/16/2008 11:35 AM |
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so if you are serious about competing, you need UScA.
With their dramatic loss of members over the past several years, SchH USA needs people like me as a member more than I need them as an organization - especially when crap like this is going on.
Glad I compete as a DVG member.
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Re: Gary Hanrahan
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#195177 - 05/16/2008 11:41 AM |
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The videos clearly depict very poor sportsmanship and reflect poorly on the UScA organization.
That said I am a UScA member and don't want to abandon the organization -- I hope the videos highlight to the Executive Board the need for change that's necessary in order to make the organization better and stonger. Hopefully a clear message for change.
Personally WDA aligning with the AKC scares me. The breed standard for the AKC is the American Show Shepherd and a possibility that the sport of Schutzhund turns into a mix of an agility and obedience trial to please the general public. Yikes on both counts -- a sad day for the GSD breed and the sport.
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Re: Gary Hanrahan
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#195178 - 05/16/2008 11:42 AM |
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I keep wondering what is the 'Rest of the Story' on this incident.
I agree that there are two sides to every story, BUT no matter what the rest of the story is the bottom line is that driving over tracks at a trial is ridiculous, grade school behavior from someone who has been a representative of USCA for many years.
Mr. Hanrahan has won numerous national events and been a member of the world team numerous times as well. If this is how the top level competitors and members behave, then I don't think it bodes well for the organization as a whole.
I don't care if the club giving the trial 'double dog dared' him to show up, or what the details are behind it.... the fact that he did what he did, and he knew he was being recorded on video speaks volumes to me.
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Re: Gary Hanrahan
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As someone who knows nothing of these orgs, I'm sure I speak for a silent contingent of fence-sitters (in terms of what, if any sport or org. to officially join...if ever) who view this as an irredeemable cluster**** (the details of which are *completely* irrelevant), from which we'd just as soon skip in our search of an attractive governing sport body.
No second chances to make first impressions, yadda yadda
Between the Sieger, this, and the help of the internet, Schutzhund certainly caught one on the chin. Man!
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