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[Re: Mike J Schoonbrood ]
#197526 - 06/05/2008 10:16 AM |
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add those things to the top that normally hold barb wire, have them facing in toward the yard and use non-barbed plain metal wire. The dog would have to go up and backwards to get over it.
We used the slide racks and slid a piece of plywood so that it is leaning in around the top or one of the day runs. (like the wire idea)
Works great.
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Re: Fence Questions
[Re: Mike J Schoonbrood ]
#197536 - 06/05/2008 11:43 AM |
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I have one dog that goes over (climbs) fences and one that goes under. Both do this with chain link fencing only.
Since you are planning on a wooden or vinyl fence, you are already ahead of the game.
If you are concerned about digging, you can buy those concrete slab squares that people use to make patios with. You can make a line of concrete slabs along your fence line. You can use it to put potted plants, etc and make it attractive. Bonus: you won't have to weed whack your fence.
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Re: Fence Questions
[Re: Mike J Schoonbrood ]
#197538 - 06/05/2008 11:58 AM |
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6ft is generally OK, but if you really have an issue, depending on the type of fence it is, add those things to the top that normally hold barb wire, have them facing in toward the yard and use non-barbed plain metal wire. The dog would have to go up and backwards to get over it. But generally it really depends on the dogs. I would be more worried about digging under the fence than I would be about going over a 6 footer.
Another idea would be cow wire. This helps with wayward dogs trying to get in your yard as well as containing an escapist in your yard. It would only be something to consider if your dog has a tendency to run for the hills, though.  You can run a wire with the "topper" Mike has described and/or a wire along the bottom of the fence. Our chain link is coated with a rubberized/nylon material for longevity, and this would help with not making the entire fence "charged."
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#197544 - 06/05/2008 12:31 PM |
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I agree with not letting the dog look out - too much temptation, barking, people looking in, etc etc, so building a wood fence with no gaps is good.
I like the idea of the concrete slabs in front of the fence. Don't know if the OP meant concrete 2' deep or 2' out from the fence. Two feet deep into the soil isn't necessary. One foot out from the fence, as a slab, should suffice.
I'll also say that I'm not all that sure that even if a male dog (for example) is well trained, that it translates into not scaling a 6' wall if there's a female in heat outside. This is what concerns me the most.
I also never take my dog in or out through our gate. I never even let him see me open it, which I rarely do anyway. I also keep our lawn mower right in front of the gate. These small efforts have paid off. My dog completely ignores the gate and has never shown any interest in it. I've also replaced some of the nails on the (wooden) gate with screws so the slats can't be pushed out.
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#197588 - 06/05/2008 04:38 PM |
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If you train your dog to stop barking when you tell it to, not leave the gate unless you tell it to etc.... it's just training. If someone can't train something as simple as staying in the yard when the gate is open or to shut up when told, then they should get a trainer to help them or get a cat, lol. It's basic obedience.............
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#197592 - 06/05/2008 04:59 PM |
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... I also never take my dog in or out through our gate. I never even let him see me open it, .... My dog completely ignores the gate and has never shown any interest in it. I've also replaced some of the nails on the (wooden) gate with screws so the slats can't be pushed out.
But, but..... what if someone did open it? A family member, anyone? The dog would not have been trained not to go through it without your OK.
I mean, I imagine that you have a certain open-front-door protocol, or else you would have dogs making a dash outside, maybe into the street, when the door was opened. You can't rely on always having the dog on a leash or crated whenever anyone ever opened the door...
Wouldn't you want that same security with the gate?
(BTW, I'm talking about the gate thing only. My yard is fenced, too. But there's a spot where one of them can fit under, and there is also a gate where UPS, etc., come in. Those were training issues, for me. In fact, going underneath was when I really learned timing in verbal markers.  "NO OLIVER" as he was wiggling under, switched immediately to "YES!" the instant he halted and started wiggling back into the yard. Very split-personality sounding, I'm sure.)
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Re: Fence Questions
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#197593 - 06/05/2008 05:01 PM |
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The whole not letting the dog see the gate being used stuff seems pretty extreme...
I was at my vets office the other day for Yasko. Her vet practice is the downstairs of her house. The side door to the staircase was open and her 2 Mal's were standing at the door. Both of them stayed there and made no attempt at all to enter the waiting room area even though someone forgot to close the door properly.
Yet, there are people hiding the fact that they have a gate from their dog...
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Re: Fence Questions
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Hi Steve: In over 57 years of Breeding and training never lost one Dog. Our fence was
chain link two foot deep in the ground to prevent digging under and the exact way Mike described the top of the fence stopping a jump/climb over with six foot exposed to meet our code. We also planted fast growing bushes and shrubbery to make it look good plus the roots also helped prevent a dig under. It is my strong belief that a well fed, walked everyday including inclement weather Dog will think twice before trying to escape. Tom
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Re: Fence Questions
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#197657 - 06/05/2008 10:35 PM |
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Tom,
That's a fantastic idea (installing an 8 ft fence with 2 ft below ground). I'll ask the fence guy when he comes if that's viable with wood and vinyl fences.
It is my strong belief that a well fed, walked everyday including inclement weather Dog will think twice before trying to escape.
I agree wholeheartedly.
Thanks a lot! Your post was very helpful.
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