Re: Nd some advise w/my 10 wk old GSD scratchin hi
[Re: Waleed AlRahim ]
#200420 - 06/30/2008 08:15 PM |
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I meant had you changed FROM the Wellness that you put him on when he came to you, to something else. But now I see that you haven't. What is the protein in it? Lamb? Chicken? What?
No vanilla yogurt! PLAIN yogurt only. (They are not the same; vanilla is sweetened.) And you want it to say "live cultures" or "active cultures" on it.
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Re: Nd some advise w/my 10 wk old GSD scratchin hi
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#200421 - 06/30/2008 08:28 PM |
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Did you see Mike Armstrong's post? There are several allergy experts on the forum. Mike is one of them.
His advice about keeping a dated log is crucial. I would start today. Include the supplements, amounts, meds, the food you gave, whether you gave yogurt, whether he was outside, whether it was particularly windy, etc.
If you forget a day, just start on the next one. Any log is better than none.
You will learn more what to include, but the important thing is: START the log. You will be so grateful that you did.
I would get the fish oil without lemon ASAP. Fish oil and Vitamin E should be in your dog's daily diet forever. JMHO.
Did the Benadryl have any effect on the itch? If you are not sure, then I'd try one more day and watch closely.
I'm with Mike on the relative ineffectiveness of Benadryl compared to other antihistamines, so post back and we will give you better choices to try if you do not see it working.
I know that you're being deluged, but as you read the questions, try to post back each answer. They really are meaningful questions coming from people who have had a ton of allergy experience.
So: What is the protein in the food? Does the Benadryl help or not?
Also, have you bathed him since he came to you? I'd recommend it, even without shampoo, along with laundering his mat or blanket and vacuuming all over the house, because if he is bringing pollen or other allergen inside on his fur, then he is breathing it 24/7.
(The bath/rinse would go on the log. Also an estimate of the itch level every day: Maybe from 1 to 5 or something.)
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Re: Nd some advise w/my 10 wk old GSD scratchin hi
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#200425 - 06/30/2008 08:39 PM |
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But the chances are it could also be an inhalant/environmental thing, although I didn't think it came up that early in puppies.
Yes, that was my thought too, and it made me ask a million questions.
Used to be that 6 months was about the youngest for inhalant allergies to appear, then 4 months ...... 10 weeks is early.
That makes the log even more important, Waleed, because if it's something else, the more info for the vet, the better.
Everything that has been suggested is what I would do for a few days: antihistamines, fish oil (a gram per ten pounds of dog weight), Vitamin E (100 or 200 IU gelcap/day), a thorough rinsing, plain yogurt with live cultures, a log started, keeping an eye on his ears (inside) for any inflammation, etc.
But I'd be planning to get the vet to look again and to get a skin scraping to 'scope if you see no improvement, in case it's a skin parasite (like mange) or something else, and I'd also be planning on a trial of hydroxyzine or chlorpheniramine if the Benadryl is not helpful.
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Re: Nd some advise w/my 10 wk old GSD scratchin hi
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#200439 - 06/30/2008 09:34 PM |
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It seems that it is the wellness food. I know of two dog owners that have dogs allergic to the food.
If you do not like what the breeder is feeding then at least use a food with similar protein source.
Hope it is an easy fix. I know how hard it is to watch them suffer.
Michelle
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Re: Nd some advise w/my 10 wk old GSD scratchin hi
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#200440 - 06/30/2008 09:51 PM |
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I would have noticed this when I first picked him up from the plane...
You don't know by any chance if there were other puppies being transported on the plane with your pup? I'm thinking more along the lines of a puppy mill vs a legitimate, responsible breeder. The pets are transported in a special pressurized area but they are together. I have seen some pretty unhealthy, infested puppies in these mass shippings. (I'm not talking about your boy but potentially other dogs on board from a different source)
Mange comes to mind, particularly scabies it can be passed to humans, rash and itching being symptoms. This is probably way off base but it is another possibility. I just thought I would throw it out there.
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Re: Nd some advise w/my 10 wk old GSD scratchin hi
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#200441 - 06/30/2008 09:52 PM |
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It seems that it is the wellness food. I know of two dog owners that have dogs allergic to the food.
If you do not like what the breeder is feeding then at least use a food with similar protein source.
Hope it is an easy fix. I know how hard it is to watch them suffer.
True food allergies are to proteins.
THat is, the allergen would be the chicken, or the lamb, or some other protein in the food. That would make the brand pretty much meaningless (unless it was a sensitivity to something in a certain brand, rather than an allergy).
Yes, I was trying to find out too what the protein source in the new food was. Just to cut out one possibility, I would do what you suggested, which is to stick with whatever protein the dog had been on with the breeder, for now.
I think the O.P. mentioned that the breeder had left for a vacation and that he didn't know what food the dog had been on, though.
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Re: Nd some advise w/my 10 wk old GSD scratchin hi
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#200457 - 07/01/2008 06:41 AM |
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has the puppy been vaccinated? if so, it may be a reaction to the vaccines. I think Mike mentioned it but I didn't see a response on that from the OP?
I may have missed it though, stranger things have happened.
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Re: Nd some advise w/my 10 wk old GSD scratchin hi
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#200495 - 07/01/2008 01:38 PM |
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I would like to thank you all of you for your thoughts and considerations...
I will get the protein count for the dog food as soon as i get home... sorry for the delayed response i have been traveling last night and today...
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Re: Nd some advise w/my 10 wk old GSD scratchin hi
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#200509 - 07/01/2008 04:03 PM |
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I would like to thank you all of you for your thoughts and considerations...
I will get the protein count for the dog food as soon as i get home... sorry for the delayed response i have been traveling last night and today...
The protein source (which recipe of Wellness) is what I was looking for: chicken, or lamb, or whatever.
As Cindy and Mike mentioned, do you know whether the dog was vaccinated right before he left his breeder? Or maybe right after you got him?
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Re: Nd some advise w/my 10 wk old GSD scratchin hi
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Connie
Here is the info from the Wellness Super5 Mix for puppies:
Ingredients:
Deboned Chicken, Chicken Meal, Oatmeal, Ground Barley, Salmon Meal (natural source of DHA-Docosahexaneoic acid), Canola Oil (preserved with mixed tocopherols, a natural source of vitamin E), Ground Brown Rice, Tomato Pomace, Rice Bran (from brown rice), Tomatoes (natural source of Lycopene), Natural Chicken Flavor, Rye Flour, Carrots, Spinach, Sweet Potatoes, Apples, Blueberries, Ground Millet, Flaxseed, Potassium Chloride.
Guaranteed Analysis %:
Crude Protein (minimum) 28
Crude Fat (minimum) 17
Moisture (maximum) 11
Crude Fiber (maximum) 5
Omega-6 Fatty Acids (minimum) 4
Omega-3 Fatty Acids (minimum) 1.33
DHA* Not Less Than 0.13
Taurine* Not Less Than 0.09
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