steve strom wrote 08/02/2008 08:10 PM Re: Pinch Collars [Re: Connie Sutherland ] #204175 - 08/02/2008 08:10 PM
steve strom Webboard User Reg: 03-17-2006 Posts: 4203 Loc: Offline	oops. Can I say Humbolt?
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Will Rambeau wrote 08/02/2008 08:20 PM Re: Pinch Collars [Re: Jillian Blesser ] #204176 - 08/02/2008 08:20 PM
Will Rambeau Moderator Reg: 01-25-2003 Posts: 5983 Loc: Idaho Offline	Quote: Jillian Blesser I am completely confident that I can get a dog to do whatever I want on leash with a properly fitted buckle collar and no treats unless I'm teaching a trick. Really? I am completely confident that my dog would not obey you on leash in any way, shape, or form and the results would not be pretty if you tried to get him to do *anything* that he didn't want to do. Shall we meet somewhere for you to try out your theory? ( after you've signed the appropriate waivers, of course. ) We could film it for YouTube, it'd be very educational..... The Fetz dog: http://www.leerburg.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/79673/page/25
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Lindsay Janes wrote 08/02/2008 08:48 PM Re: Pinch Collars [Re: Jillian Blesser ] #204179 - 08/02/2008 08:48 PM
Lindsay Janes Webboard User Reg: 10-24-2005 Posts: 749 Loc: Tucson, Az Offline	Quote: Jillian Blesser I am completely confident that I can get a dog to do whatever I want on leash with a properly fitted buckle collar and no treats unless I'm teaching a trick. The correction should come from your body language not from a foreign object around your dogs neck or face. Any questions? Are you serious? Do you think you can handle all dogs any kinds from doing that way? "It's better to be an optimist who is sometimes wrong than a pessimist who is always right"
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Michael_Wise wrote 08/02/2008 09:15 PM Re: Pinch Collars [Re: Lindsay Janes ] #204183 - 08/02/2008 09:15 PM
Michael_Wise Webboard User Reg: 07-10-2006 Posts: 4454 Loc: Arkansas Offline	I'm pretty sure that everyone here would consider the correction that you would have to give my 14 lb. JRT with a flat collar unfair and abusive. Put on a prong, and abuse turns into a flick of the wrist. I vote prong. This is not a hard dog, either.
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Carol Boche wrote 08/02/2008 10:50 PM Re: Pinch Collars [Re: Will Rambeau ] #204201 - 08/02/2008 10:50 PM
Carol Boche Webboard User Reg: 10-30-2005 Posts: 4531 Loc: South Dakota, USA Offline	Quote: Jillian Blesser I am completely confident that I can get a dog to do whatever I want on leash with a properly fitted buckle collar and no treats unless I'm teaching a trick. You must be talking about those blow up dogs with the stiff leash, right????? I have to say, this is one of the best ones I have heard in a while. Until The Tale of the Lioness is told, the Story will Always Glorfy the Hunter
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steve strom wrote 08/02/2008 11:17 PM Re: Pinch Collars [Re: Carol Boche ] #204206 - 08/02/2008 11:17 PM
steve strom Webboard User Reg: 03-17-2006 Posts: 4203 Loc: Offline	Blow up dogs???
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randy allen wrote 08/02/2008 11:20 PM Re: Pinch Collars [Re: steve strom ] #204207 - 08/02/2008 11:20 PM
randy allen Webboard User Reg: 08-30-2007 Posts: 3283 Loc: Offline	Must be the same dogs that mimes own.
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steve strom wrote 08/02/2008 11:27 PM Re: Pinch Collars [Re: randy allen ] #204208 - 08/02/2008 11:27 PM
steve strom Webboard User Reg: 03-17-2006 Posts: 4203 Loc: Offline	With stiff leashes.
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Michael Reese wrote 08/02/2008 11:34 PM Re: Pinch Collars [Re: steve strom ] #204209 - 08/02/2008 11:34 PM
Michael Reese Webboard User Reg: 03-07-2006 Posts: 318 Loc: Sacramento, Ca. Offline	Jillian, While there is some validity in your statements it's obvious your experience is minimal. Try working some high drive, dominant, civil dog someday and give your theory a test. P.S. Make sure the ambulance is nearby.
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randy allen wrote 08/02/2008 11:35 PM Re: Pinch Collars [Re: steve strom ] #204210 - 08/02/2008 11:35 PM
randy allen Webboard User Reg: 08-30-2007 Posts: 3283 Loc: Offline	And a flat collar. But even those dogs can be a challenge, ask Chaplin.
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