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I know being a female you probably don't want to be out on the streets that early by yourself.

Why ever not, Rob? Or are we poor weak females supposed to stay indoors until a safer hour?

LoL .. Contentious aren't you! LoL

Now Sarah, you know ( or maybe not ) I didn't mean that in the context your putting it in. That's why it says, ..... " probably don't ... " LoL

I don't know what kind of neighborhood she lives in! I was just trying to head her off if she came back saying, that early isn't an option for her! LoL

But if you were truly offended; I apologize!


Poor weak females ... LoL That's funny

Hee hee - just giving you a warning pop on the leash, Rob.

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Never met one that didn't have a strong tongue! LoL ie one that speaks her mind!

Rob, how's that hole you're digging coming?

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Never met one that didn't have a strong tongue! LoL ie one that speaks her mind!

Rob, how's that hole you're digging coming?

No gloves. I think I might be getting some blisters! ... LoL

The lady with the danes lives about 7 houses down from mine and I will definatley try to avoid her house. But I've never seen these dogs before, maybe she was even visiting??? I know most of the dogs in the neighborhood. Maybe she never excersises them and that would lead to the bolting.

In Phx it's about 110 during the day so I normally ride around 7pm when the sun is down but it's not dark yet. This dog has so much energy that I use the bike with her so she's moving faster, not running, just moving fast. She is actually more comfortable moving that fast because she moves by the scary stuff (skateboarders, etc) faster. Plus it's so HOT here that the wind moving by you cools you off.

I found out later my mother and son were walking down the street past this lady's house minutes before the episode. The lady had the two danes in the front yard, off leash (these are small yards) and my mom said that as she and my son walked by the lady kept snapping her fingers and verbally telling her dogs to stay in the yard. She kept giving them commands because they wanted to investigate my son and mom (whether it was friendly investigation or not I have no idea)

I didn't see the danes at all and as I was riding by they bolted into the street (I was riding in the street) and started going after my 12 month old puppy, she was bucking on the leash and screaming and they took turns jumping on her and biting her, then I would kick them and scream and they'd back off a little, then jump back on her and bite. If I would have dropped the leash my dog would have ran, and they would have chased and i'm not sure what would have happened when they caught her. I have to think that my kicking and yelling at the dogs helped prevent something worse.

I've had dogs come after me before and If I put on a tough front and yell at them to go home they'll usually turn around and leave. Maybe since there were two of them they felt a little more confident.

The lady was able to grab them by the collars and run them back to the house. I think my dog crapping herself and being a puppy probably helped too, if she would have tried to be a big tough dominant dog maybe they would have straight up brawled.

I've come down from being so upset. I just CANNOT STAND when people are IRRESPONSIBLE. If you're dog is not 100% trained don't let it off the leash! Even Ed says that he pretty much always uses a drag line.

I don't like when people think that they're dog is a little baby that could never hurt anyone. I like to assume that my dog COULD hurt someone and be cautious.

Vanessa,

Sorry about the levity earlier in the thread - I didn't mean to distract from the point of your post. Incidents like this do happen, unfortunately, and as long as there are stupid irresponsible dog owners out there they will continue to happen. In other threads on similar incidents carrying a stout walking stick or an expandable baton (if it's legal where you are) has been suggested. If I can find the owners of loose dogs that threaten my dog I *always* give them a real earful, threaten to call Animal Control etc. I reckon it's the only way they might start to understand that allowing their dogs to do this is not acceptable. If they whine that their dogs are harmless I tell them that mine isn't, so they should still keep theirs under control.

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The lady with the danes lives about 7 houses down from mine

I've come down from being so upset. I just CANNOT STAND when people are IRRESPONSIBLE. If you're dog is not 100% trained don't let it off the leash!
I don't like when people think that they're dog is a little baby that could never hurt anyone.

Vanessa

Especially being several houses down, I still feel hooking up and discussing the events that took place would be a good idea. Good neighborly relations.( if she is responsive to it )If she isn't, hey it's a gold star by your name on the poster board. ( you tried)in the event something happens down the road.

Irresponsible people ( dog owners ) Yes I agree! Can't stand them either! I live next door to some LoL.

But you know, what I've seen is alot of people get their dog trained just enough to where it fits in with their life style, and they are satisfied with that. And the few/several times a year they get outside or their normal day to day routine is when their slapped with the reality that they aren't. And they counter that with ' oh Fido won't hurt a flea ' And he probably won't with in the confounds of their family routine. But these are ( imo ) the same people who don't understand socialization and taking their dog for a walk to release some of the energy that is in them, to name a few.

I by no means of the imagination claim to be an expert dog trainer. Yet everyone always comments on how well behaved my dogs are. I get calls from family and friends asking my advice. I give it and direct them here. But yet they will argue with me on why they can't or don't agree with what I just told them! And that is the point I am getting at.

Even if you have a sit down with this woman she may be a anti correction person and or a positive only halty type! Or just uneducated ( dog wise ). Hopefully the latter, that's where you come in! Help reduce the number of irresponsible people to be disgusted with! LoL

In your OP you said that she said " you know where I live ". So I would assume that she has had these dogs for a while. Yet you have never seen them! So maybe she isn't as irresponsible as we might think. One incident? Like I said earlier we all make mistakes. Your upset because this one happened to you, and that's understandable! Now if you see this happening over and over and over, definate irresponsiblity!

Or she could be dog sitting for a week or two. But you and us won't know until you have a friendly chat with her. And come back and tell us how it went! LoL.

You asked for suggestions. That's all I have. As far as your dog .. Forget about it, and continue your training. I would think it would be a while before you see any adverse behavior problems, if any. If you can even discern that it stems from this incident. Perhaps one of the experts here, have something else to say on it.

Happy training Vanessa! And let us know how the chat goes/went!

Edited by Rob Nash (12/31/1969 06:00 PM)
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 Quote: Vanessa Dibernar

I don't like when people think that they're dog is a little baby that could never hurt anyone. I like to assume that my dog COULD hurt someone and be cautious.

Yep. You hit the nail square on the head.

Even a friendly, no-issues dog, can still accidently hurt someone. You never know what issues the person has, be it mobility, vision, etc, that could cause them problems around exhuberant, friendly dogs.

A small child can be knocked to the ground quite quickly, even by a friendly dog, and as a result be afraid of dogs for years to come, or perhaps forever. Not something any dog lover would want to cause.

As far as my dog, I wasn't able to take her out last night because it was raining pretty hard but she seems to be acting tottally fine. I had a sheltie that was attacked by a chow when I was a kid and the sheltie wouldn't even go outside for weeks and hid for a long time.

So, so far so good. Now, do I have the guts to talk to the lady?.....

Vanessa, it doesn't have to be a bad experience.

You can start off by thanking her for taking her dogs back inside and apologizing. She just as easily could have been the sort of moron who stood there saying, "Oh no, they just want to play. Let them work it out on their own."

Pointing out the good/right things that she did, will open the floor for more honest discussion, and help everyone relax right away.

Also, putting the focus on your concern for her dogs' safety, instead of the danger they could pose to others, will help avoid a defensive reaction.

Feel free to ask if you want more ideas.