Guest1 wrote 08/28/2008 10:31 AM
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[Re: Patti Joseph ]
#207678 - 08/28/2008 10:31 AM |
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Drive and energy are not neccesarily synonyms.
It sounds like you're describing drive.
You seem to be resistant to the idea that you have the kind of dog which many people really want. Very usable degrees of drive when stimulated....easy going when not.
You're going to have to accept the possibility you have a very desirable dog, Patti!
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Re: Extremely impatient dog
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#207679 - 08/28/2008 10:32 AM |
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Steve, that's kinda the problem. We have a clicker, we love marker training-- and when he wants a toy or food, it works. It doesn't seem to help us in walking by other dogs that he wants to meet RIGHT NOW.  I can't set him up so that he gets meeting another dog as a reward for not visually locking on.
Anyway, my hope is to instill some calm into his life, and hope maturity as well as the continued training incorperated into our lives, the excersise, etc. all help his ability towards self control when he wants something badly.
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Re: Extremely impatient dog
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#207680 - 08/28/2008 10:35 AM |
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LOL thanks Steve, he is medium energy, medium drive. He is not over-the-top drivey. With my disabilities, I asked the breeder for medium everything. You sound very experienced, Steve. I've never had a workinglines dog before. At 21 months, he is an affectionate (okay.. that is the only extreme thing about him!) dog who does settle indoors. He just maybe needs more maturity? How long do Czech line dog's brains take to mature? I bet the answer will be scary.
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Guest1 wrote 08/28/2008 10:36 AM
Re: Extremely impatient dog
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#207681 - 08/28/2008 10:36 AM |
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"Correction" isn't neccesarily a dirty word when it comes to stuff like that when you're trying to simply stop something.
Problem is the different kinds and degrees of punishments, and depending on the circumstances they could make the situation worse.
Maybe someone else will chime in who is better versed.
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Re: Extremely impatient dog
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#207684 - 08/28/2008 10:41 AM |
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Alyssa, thank you for the input.  My gosh-- who is that dog in your sig line photo?? STUNNING deep sable with intense eyebrow-wrinklies! Noshin' on a jumbo RMB.
That is Danke von Schraderhaus, aka, The Furred Fly Slayer.
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Re: Extremely impatient dog
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#207688 - 08/28/2008 12:15 PM |
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Steve, in my case, the corrections don't register as well as they would with someone handling him with better hands than me. (I have disabled hands) I may try a trainer working with him on this for a few weeks, to break the habit. It isn't terribly strong/intense, but is old enough of a habit that a few weeks would be needed. I have a throw-chain on walks if I need to correct beyond a lash-correction (with my hands, its a weak correction)... just must remember to use it.
Alyssa, Danke is jaw-droppingly gorgeous! She looks like a tough cookie, too. Beware flies, beware! 
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Re: Extremely impatient dog
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#207751 - 08/28/2008 08:23 PM |
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I have a throw-chain on walks if I need to correct beyond a lash-correction (with my hands, its a weak correction)... just must remember to use it.
To make sure I understand, you are throwing the throw chain at the dog, or using a lash to hit the dog when it is doing an inappropriate behavior?
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Re: Extremely impatient dog
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#207753 - 08/28/2008 08:51 PM |
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I've seen the "toss a choke chain at the dog's butt" correction before.
Ron Pace used to teach that method (and for all I know, still does).
The way he taught it, was to be used as an off-leash, at a distance correction. Toss the chain at the dog's rump, mostly to get it's attention.
Didn't like it then, like it even less now.
That's what E-collars are for.
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Re: Extremely impatient dog
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#207756 - 08/28/2008 09:03 PM |
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There are a few trainers around here that STILL use these methods, but I wanted to ASK the OP if that was how she was using them before jumping to the conclusion that is how they are being used.
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#207757 - 08/28/2008 09:05 PM |
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