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[Re: Denise Skidmore ]
#213802 - 10/28/2008 08:39 PM |
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Acids can sterilize meat, it also denatures the protein like cooking does. There's a south American dish "ceviche" that is made by "cooking" entirely with a cold acidic marinade.
I imagine it ruins any active enzymes on the surface of the meat, which some people claim is a benefit of feeding raw.
Mmmmm.... ceviche is great stuff. So is beef tartare wrapped in raw duck. Yummy. 
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Re: Why would someone add vinegar to the dog's
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#213804 - 10/28/2008 08:59 PM |
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The few times I added it to my dogs food it caused them to vomit.
Some friends and I heard it could help with weight loss, we tried it and all three of us wound up with a UTI.
I really don't have an opinion either way, just didn't have a good experience with it.
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Re: Why would someone add vinegar to the dog's
[Re: Debbie High ]
#213847 - 10/29/2008 08:22 AM |
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I add apple cider vinegar occasionally to my dog's food and she laps it up w/ no problem...(I add about a tablespoon per meal)
I add it when she seems to be scratching at her ears more than I think is normal. I have heard that it will lower the pH of the gut, which will in turn make the gut inhospitable to yeast growth. Reducing systemic yeast growth (IMO) will help to control itching all over.
I have not gone so far as to wipe her ears out w/ a solution of acv, becasue it seems like after a couple of days of adding it to her meals, her ears seem to stop itching.(her ears always appear to be clean, otherwise I probably would give them an acv wipe)
Anecdotally anyway, I think it does help w/ itchiness...
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Re: Why would someone add vinegar to the dog's
[Re: Lynne Barrows ]
#213858 - 10/29/2008 10:30 AM |
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Anecdotally anyway, I think it does help w/ itchiness...
I agree it does seem to help a little with itchy skin and given occasionally, internally, it probably won't hurt anything.
But I've never given it daily or in a large quantity for fear of changing the PH level so much that you end up with a UTI, like Debbie. Some of my ACV reading has mentioned this.
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Re: Why would someone add vinegar to the dog's
[Re: Sarah Morris ]
#213866 - 10/29/2008 11:17 AM |
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I too feed ACV to my dog a few times a week. Just a tablespoon with her meal.
It had helped with her itchies last winter. But this year, the Santa Ana winds seem to be quite brutal and the ACV does not seem to be allievating the issue.
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She has thin fur on areas where she has scratched continuously, and nothing holistic I am doing seems to be helping.
Would it be worth a try then, to rub it onto her coat? Her allergies are so stubborn.
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Re: Why would someone add vinegar to the dog's
[Re: Rei Chee ]
#213868 - 10/29/2008 11:32 AM |
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Rei, I've used it as the final rinse when I'm bathing my dog (which is 2-3 times a week) and I've also saturated a wash cloth and applied it to the itchiest spots. My derm vet would probably laugh at me but I do think it helps, if only a little.
When used as a rinse after bathing I have noticed my dog's coat is so soft and shiny...not at all what I was expecting.
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Re: Why would someone add vinegar to the dog's
[Re: Sarah Morris ]
#213870 - 10/29/2008 11:47 AM |
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HI Sarah,
A final rinse as in soaking the dog down after the water rinse? It will be treated as a leave-in conditioner, yes?
Do you use shampoo while bathing your skin-sensitive dog?
While I know of those who strongly oppose frequent bathing, I personally see that it soothes my sensitive puppy's skin and I give her a bath once a week, with a non-drying natural shampoo and conditioner.
I heard of applying ACV to hot spots. But she kept licking it off!
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Re: Why would someone add vinegar to the dog's
[Re: Rei Chee ]
#213874 - 10/29/2008 12:03 PM |
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My derm vet told me allergic dogs should be bathed frequently and definitely wiped down or rinsed off daily. He has some clients who shower with their dogs every day. 
With ACV, I douse my dog with it after I rinse out the shampoo and let the excess drip off. I then lightly towel him off.
I use 2 different shampoos and alternate them...1 helps with the bacteria load on his skin and one helps soothe the itching. Both are made by DVM Products.
Relief Shampoo is the soothing shampoo. Relief Conditioner can be rinsed out or left in. I often use the conditioner as a leave-in on non-bath days.
I guess the only thing I would say is that if you're seeing noticable hair loss and thinning, ACV may not help much. My dog's hair loss is just shocking, despite my every effort, holistic and traditional, to stop the itching.
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Re: Why would someone add vinegar to the dog's
[Re: Sarah Morris ]
#213877 - 10/29/2008 12:17 PM |
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Thanks Sarah!
Coming from a derm vet, I will certainly take his advice over others. Besides, my understanding & knowledge of my dog triumphs over generalized beliefs.
I don't really care for the smell of ACV, but I will give it a shot over a period of time to see if it helps. My dog seriously looks moth-eaten and I feel so badly for her, especially since the last two days, she is kept up at night with the scratching.
Does your dog tend to suffer more from allergies around this time of the year?
It is my second winter in California. I brought Janka home on Dec 8 2007, and she started to show dermatological discomfort in January and finally subsided in March.
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Re: Why would someone add vinegar to the dog's
[Re: Rei Chee ]
#213880 - 10/29/2008 12:43 PM |
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Fall has been bad in the past for True but it was easily managed with antihistimines and the itching ended pretty quickly. This year, he's been itching non-stop since January and right now he's as bad as he's ever been and nothing is working.
Rei, Connie and a few others who have posted about it convinced me to turn this over to a derm vet and I'm really glad I did. If you can't get the itching under control, or if it becomes a permanent condition that doesn't subside with the change of seasons, it's something you might want to consider doing.
IMHO, when dogs are spending the majority of their time itching and biting and losing hair...it's time for a big gun.
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