thanks for all the replies. I am in no means in a rush for this. based on all the reading I've done in the past, I think Kingston would be a good dog to breed. This is my 3rd Rottie and he has been the most complete rottie I've owned. the biggest point I took away from these posts was the "what if the pup goes to an unsuitable home" factor. this is something Im looking to research more. besides, I have a lot of time to get things sorted out.


Thanks to Leerburgs finest !! you guys on this board are awesome !!

Nothing personal Collin but the most complete rottweiler you've ever owned is too low a standard. You think he's a good dog to breed but other then people looking for a pet that don't really do anything with dogs, no one else is going to. It's more a case of prove it. You need to get out there and do something with working and training and even showing before you jump into breeding. It doesnt matter how much you read, you need experience and the knowledge that comes with it before you go to the end game, the breeding of dogs.

Yeah yeah,
How many times have we been though this? "I got a great dog, everybody says I should breed it, blah blah blah."
How many people have we actually talked out of these kind of wonderful ideas? Even one?
We just talk sense, and they (byb's) always know better.

Hey Collin,
You've known at least three dogs in your life, you know more then anyone else.
Go on, breed your wonderful cd titled 'pet'.


If your going to ask our opinion, can you at least give us a look at the dogs linage?
Randy

lol...ok I got all the info I needed. I never once said my dog was soooooo wonderful that it needs to be bred. you guys are starting to sound like the rottweiler.net people...

Quote, "to breed which was my original intentions when I picked him up. I am looking to start breeding after he hits 2 years old".

If he isn't sooooo wonderful, why are you breeding him?

Pedigree, linage; you know, the parents, grandparents and beyond. linebred? If so, from what generations? Out cropped from where? What did happen to the past generations, they do anything? Healthy?
Health problems? Whose usually become exponential through the generations. And even worse with the wrong pairing.
These questions aren't even a beginning.

Want our opinion, let us see the dog's linage.
Randy

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lol...ok I got all the info I needed. I never once said my dog was soooooo wonderful that it needs to be bred. ....

Then he should not be. JMO.

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you guys are starting to sound like the rottweiler.net people...

Responsible and ethical?




You are getting some straightforward and responsible opinions. I'm sure that's what you wanted, un-sugarcoated.

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... I dont wanna be one of those careless breeder types. if its not for me then by al lmeans I am willing to hear why.

Hate to say I told you so Collin.

the reality is most dogs should not be bred. most = 99%, of course many unworthy ones ARE bred and then sold to the generally QUITE uneducated public. many of those are raised imappropriately, trained badly or not at alll, tied up in the back yd once the cuteness and novelty wear off, or end up in pounds, euthanized or re-homed over and over.

the pt is, if your dog doesnt have FABULOUS qualities to contribute to the gene pool, then he should not re-produce. and as someone else pointed out, all the scrutiny of your dog would have to be duplicated in scrutinizing the female. do they both measure up (& to what?), no dog is perfect, so what DEFECTS will he/she also contribute to the gene pool?

*ethical* breeders dont just pump out puppies parented by mediocre, un-tested, un-proven parents into the narket unless they are only doing it for the money. if you truly DON'T want to be THAT kind of breeder, then you need to take all of this great, experienced advice into consideration and FOLLOW IT before diving in. if you dont, many of these warnings may come back to haunt you...or the puppies...or the puppy-buyers....
posting your dogs pedigree might yield you more info, might be good OR bad--but it will be the truth.

dont disregard experienced, educated advice just b/c it conflicts with what you WANT to do. if you know better than the dog-people on this forum, you would not have asked for suggestions, thoughts or advice. that being said---it defies logic to ignore that info that has been given just b/c it's raining on your parade of wanting to breed your dog. people here would rather hurt a person's feelings by speaking the truth, then be politically correct and condone a possibly bad idea.
there is not a shortage of DOGS anywhere, so everyone has to be ULTRA conservative when contemplating adding more.

Randy is correct. If you want more advice than the excellent advice you have already received, you really need to post your dog's pedigree.

my original post asked for what types of checks should I get done, not for your opinions... but with that said, I guess point well taken. dog will not be bred. I'll leave that to the BYB's in hawaii. with the trouble of gettin a good dog in hawaii, we gotta start somewhere. to bring in a "quality dog" from the mainland is possible. the quarentine laws are strong. as far as his line, it aint nuthin holding significant titles or even much notable dogs. he wont be bred.

again, this is hawaii, everyone owns pit bulls. rotties are precious and few. my local ScH club has 1 rottie. no active rott clubs. working dog group has at most 5-6 rotts, an non responsive to anyone outside their "circle". Kingston will not be bred. forgive me for trying to "start" somewhere rather than breed for cash.

Steve, thanks for the warning, and yes, you were right. a thread lock would be fine at this point