Re: Bleu My Staffie
[Re: Angelique Cadogan ]
#219995 - 12/14/2008 02:08 PM |
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I'm going to agree with Angelique...particularly since there is a child who, on at least one occasion, has let the dog loose. Given the description of what's going on I'd say it's a matter of time before something seriously tragic occurs.
I'd read this before you and your husband try anything with these 2 dogs:
http://leerburg.com/pdf/howtobreakupdogfight.pdf
IMHO, I don't think you and your husband should try an introduction without a good professional trainer present.
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Re: Bleu My Staffie
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#219997 - 12/14/2008 02:39 PM |
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Yes I do know how to break up a dog fight by picking up their back hind quarters, and yes I do have a son that is 19 years of age that should know better, but please I have never had this kind of problem that I have now. And I Do know how to raise and love my dogs, I have every right to own my beautiful dogs I was just asking for suggestions if you have nothing important to say maybe you should just mind your business. Oh and I can control my dogs Bleu just doen't care for other dog's and I was hoping someone had some real ideas so thanks anyway.
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Re: Bleu My Staffie
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#219998 - 12/14/2008 02:46 PM |
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.... I was just asking for suggestions if you have nothing important to say maybe you should just mind your business. Oh and I can control my dogs ... Bleu just doen't care for other dog's and I was hoping someone had some real ideas so thanks anyway.
That was "something important to say."
When we post and ask for help with a dangerous situation, we are going to get answers that we may not always agree with. That's the nature of forums.
There is someone in your house who does not follow your separation rules. The dogs are not under control.
This board is loaded with very experienced trainers/handlers/owners. "Mind your own business" is probably counterproductive if you came to the board for advice.
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Re: Bleu My Staffie
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#220000 - 12/14/2008 03:07 PM |
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Tracy, for your son to be 19 and not understand the importance of your issues is a whole other subject all together, but let me ask you this, why so many dogs? Why not stop at one, and if your son is at home then why not have him enjoy your dog instead of having 3 dogs that either of you can enjoy!
My oldest son is in college, and he knows what a strong pack order is and a strong pack leader, he has learned from watching all these years in our home. He would never think of opening a crate to a dog that would cause another to get hurt. Having said that I would never want him to be put in a situation that would cause him harm. 19 or toddler, they should not be put in that position, ever. You can't possibly enjoy theses dogs, and for them it's stressfull when the environment is unstable.
Just because they are beautiful does not mean you should have them all.. A stable and structured home is a healthy home for one or as many dogs as you want but a home with lots of issues is not a stable home and therefore it causes those dogs to be unstable and unpredictable.
You can change that by having one stable dog.
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Re: Bleu My Staffie
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#220002 - 12/14/2008 03:16 PM |
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.... I was just asking for suggestions if you have nothing important to say maybe you should just mind your business. Oh and I can control my dogs ... Bleu just doen't care for other dog's and I was hoping someone had some real ideas so thanks anyway.
That was "something important to say."
This board is loaded with very experienced trainers/handlers/owners. "Mind your own business" is probably counterproductive if you came to the board for advice.
Exactly right, Connie. I was going to offer some advice towards the problem but with the owner's attitude, I'll just "mind my own business" instead.
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Re: Bleu My Staffie
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#220004 - 12/14/2008 03:22 PM |
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My oldest dog was adopted from our local SPCA Sage We didn't know that he was malnourished as a pup and there for has bone and teeth issues so can't go for long hikes due to his legs as for the second dog he belongs to my son, Bleu is my dog he is my companion we hike together on daily basis. I can enjoy all our dogs and I do.So to your question I have 3 dogs in my home and I really love them all.
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Re: Bleu My Staffie
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#220005 - 12/14/2008 03:33 PM |
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I'm going to preface this with the fact that any advice posted is only designed to help, and copping an attitude is pretty counterproductive if you want help.
With that said, you'll probably end up taking everything I say wrong anyway, but what the heck, I love dogs, I'd just as soon not see them on the news as the perpetrators of a vicious dog attack.
1) You have a dog pack. The predominant factor in dogs that attack and kill, is the dog pack effect.
2) You're making a ton of excuses. Quit it. They're only going to get someone bit, and your dogs taken away by Animal Control. Excuses won't help them once they have been euthanized.
Wake up. You're in over your head. Either accept that this problem is entirely of your own making, and start learning a hell of a lot, pretty darned quick; or get rid of two of the dogs.
If you don't do one of the two, your dogs are headed for the death chamber- and they'll probably cause a member of your family some serious injury in the process.
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Re: Bleu My Staffie
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#220009 - 12/14/2008 04:07 PM |
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Tracy, your use of dominant, uptight,freak, unglued, and attack mode makes me think you're misreading whats going on with the three dogs. Like what has allready been said 3 dogs changes quite a bit and your answers probably fall in the pack structure which may be un- workable with the three dogs you've brought together.
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Re: Bleu My Staffie
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#220010 - 12/14/2008 04:26 PM |
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Tracy,
Thats not going to work - rewarding them if nothing is going on, that is. Its already apparent that you missed the early signs of a fight - and there were signs and signals - YOU MISSED THEM!!
You need to read the article I have written on preventing dog bites in children http://leerburg.com/kidbites.htm and while your at it take a good look at some of the photos of the damage that dogs have done when they bite people - look at my web page on this too: http://leerburg.com/dogbites.htm
This is serious business here and just because "YOU WANT IT TO HAPPEN" does not mean that its worth the risk. You're an amateur in the middle of a deadly serious business here. You need to pay attention - for the sake of your kids.
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Re: Bleu My Staffie
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#220012 - 12/14/2008 04:36 PM |
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tracy, if you care about your dogs you will give them a "stable" home and keep one. Just because you rescued them or one ,does not mean that you offer the best home. I know you want to but your home is not it!. For you & your dogs, take a good look at your home and see the things you can do to better your & the dogs life and make it safe for everyone.
Here is a woman who has 2 pits not 3 and barely made it out with her life because she wanted not one but 2 dogs she couldn't control:
http://www.dogsbite.org/blog/2008/07/another-woman-attacked-by-her-two-pit.html
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