When are the accidents happening? Daytime out of crate, daytime in crate, or nighttime?

I can say immediately that "we try to watch her" is not a housetraining protocol.

The pup is tethered to you or outdoors or in the crate, and if in the crate, was pottied before going in.

If the pup is able to make the mistake, she was in the crate too long or she was loose in the house not tethered to you. Set her up for success. Potty the minute she wakes up, after all play periods, meals, and water, before crating, before bed, and throw a party for good outdoor potties.

But give us more details and we will give you more. Where and when?

This is something that -- if you put in the time now, and not let any habits get started that you don't want to have to deal with, you will congratulate yourselves forever.

She cannot take herself outside when she needs to be there.


P.S. http://leerburg.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/ubb/postlist/Board/16/page/1 has loads of threads. But post back, too. Don't let the wrong habits get started.

 Quote: rick massimi

 Quote: connie sutherland

 Quote: sam smith

... I was reading about the marker/clicker method and that seems to be the method that Mr. Ed is recomending.....

There you go!

http://leerburg.com/219.htm

And Rick and Randy very wisely suggest fundamentals. You have no DD problem to address, just fun training to do. A nice flat collar, a pocketful of teeny rewards, and you on the other end of the leash ....

The DVD than Connie linked "The Power of Training Dogs With Markers" video they never use a collar nor any kind of physical correction. The only time there was a collar correction was when Cindy was working Rush with healing during Ring training.

Best of luck and have fun.

I have placed an order for the DVD and a few clickers(just in case my voice doesn't work)

 Quote: connie sutherland

When are the accidents happening? Daytime out of crate, daytime in crate, or nighttime?

I can say immediately that "we try to watch her" is not a housetraining protocol.

The pup is tethered to you or outdoors or in the crate, and if in the crate, was pottied before going in.

If the pup is able to make the mistake, she was in the crate too long or she was loose in the house not tethered to you. Set her up for success. Potty the minute she wakes up, after all play periods, meals, and water, before crating, before bed, and throw a party for good outdoor potties.

But give us more details and we will give you more. Where and when?

This is something that -- if you put in the time now, and not let any habits get started that you don't want to have to deal with, you will congratulate yourselves forever.

She cannot take herself outside when she needs to be there.


P.S. http://leerburg.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/ubb/postlist/Board/16/page/1 has loads of threads. But post back, too. Don't let the wrong habits get started.

She hasn't done anything in her crate, I just had her outside for about 20 mins, she didn't do anything, after about 5 mins in the house she sqats and pee's.......

The wife continues to tell me to have patience, lol

 Quote: Sam Smith

She hasn't done anything in her crate, I just had her outside for about 20 mins, she didn't do anything, after about 5 mins in the house she sqats and pee's.......

The wife continues to tell me to have patience, lol

Your wife is right but then again aren't we always? Do you always bring her in right after she pottys? You don't want her to associate pottying with the end of the fun outside play time.

It seems she already knows not to dirty her crate. That's great and should make the whole process easier.

Crate her when you can't keep an eye on her such as when you are involved in things that require your focus. Othewise tether her to you and when you catch her squatting; interrupt, no need to be harsh a simple oops and then a lets go girl and make a dash for the door and hopefully you've got her out in time to finish and like Connie said you then throw her a party and keep her out for a couple of minutes afterwards playing or letting her sniff and then bring her in.

I usually start a pup on the 2 hour rule....all the times you and Connie mentioned with no more than a 2 hour gap (when possible) in between. At night in the crate I extend the time to 4 hours. If you follow this and have no accidents after a week, add an hour and so on. If at any point she has accidents go back to the last successful time her bladder will catch up Goodluck!

Great post, Sheila!

Even with adopted adults and seniors, they don't always get the job done in one squat.

It sounds like a good start. And yes, patience now is going to pay off forever.

 Quote: Sam Smith

I just had her outside for about 20 mins, she didn't do anything, after about 5 mins in the house she sqats and pee's.......

She'll catch on. The trip outside got her body going and she was almost ready to pee, and then she was back inside. She'll catch on.

Thanks, yes she is doing great while in her crate, she doesn't soil that at all, instinctly she must think of that as her den and wants to keep it as clean as possible.....

I will follow the 2-hour rule and see how it works out, will keep you posted.....

I really appreciate all your help and assurance she will do it....and like you said have patience and more patience

 Quote: sam smith

 Quote: rick massimi

 Quote: connie sutherland

 Quote: sam smith

... I was reading about the marker/clicker method and that seems to be the method that Mr. Ed is recomending.....

There you go!

http://leerburg.com/219.htm

And Rick and Randy very wisely suggest fundamentals. You have no DD problem to address, just fun training to do. A nice flat collar, a pocketful of teeny rewards, and you on the other end of the leash ....

The DVD than Connie linked "The Power of Training Dogs With Markers" video they never use a collar nor any kind of physical correction. The only time there was a collar correction was when Cindy was working Rush with healing during Ring training.

Best of luck and have fun.

I have placed an order for the DVD and a few clickers(just in case my voice doesn't work)

That is great news Sam! You'll not regret it. I would recommend watching it a few times and not all at once. You'll say HUM more than once.

 Quote: Connie Sutherland

Good observing there, Rick!

But to the O.P.,

We have to remember that the beginning training, even though it's outside and looks like big open spaces, is not in an unenclosed area.

Everything that Sarah said about her dog being on a line (for the ability to grab that line) for most of his puppyhood stands. JMO.

So while the pup is right there in your immediate range, during a training session, with you focused on the pup and vice versa, indoors or in a fenced yard -- great, no leash. OTOH, there's no problem with a drag line being on the pup even during your sessions, and chances are good that you're not making a training video right now.

It's better to err on the side of more environment-managing than less, I think, when you have a new dog, and really set the dog up for success.

Rick, you have done your video-watching!

Thanks Connie! My wife tells me all the time I can find a needle in a hay stack.

I just hope one day I can put this all to good use.