Terra Presotto Webboard User Reg: 10-18-2007
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I raise meat rabbits for us and also supplement the dogs diet with them. I prefer skinning them before they eat only because the fur seems to get everywhere, and have had great success with humanly dispatching them with this http://www.therabbitwringer.com/.
I also have laying hens but would love to raise my own meat birds geese and turkeys and game birds when I get more space.
Just a word of warning to all the RAW feeders out there. make sure all your meat has been FROZEN first before you feed it. Especially if it comes from domestic livestock that is not wormed or from hunted wild animals. My dogs got a nasty species of tapeworm from being fed venison that had not been frozen first. Two of my dogs pooped out (no lie) a 2 ft tapeworm. Yes 2 feet!! I measured it. One of my guys now has sarcocystis, which according to a specialist can come from raw meat. i have not been able to find much info on the bug yet but I am ASSUMING that freezing will kill this one as well. All my raw food will be frozen first from now on!!
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005
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Quote: Patti Neelans
... One of my guys now has sarcocystis, which according to a specialist can come from raw meat. i have not been able to find much info on the bug yet but I am ASSUMING that freezing will kill this one as well. All my raw food will be frozen first from now on!!
For generations people thought that ingestion of flesh containing sarcocysts was the main mode of transmission. Now the generally accepted theory is that it's far more commonly transmitted by carnivores and omnivores passing a contagious stage of the parasite in feces and infecting other animals by the feces.
What treatment is being done?
P.S. Freezing at zero or below for a week is good (JMO) for all suspect meat.
It sounds like rats, chickens and bunnies are the way to go as far as being the easiest and cheapest to acquire. Does anyone know if there is enough of a difference in ducks, geese and chickens to think about adding them, or is their protein, etc... the same as chickens?
I don't feed raw yet, but my pups favorite can food is a duck meat that is grain free.
It sounds like rats, chickens and bunnies are the way to go as far as being the easiest and cheapest to acquire. Does anyone know if there is enough of a difference in ducks, geese and chickens to think about adding them, or is their protein, etc... the same as chickens?
A chicken is not a duck is not a goose. A goat is not a sheep is not a deer. A cow is not a buffalo. A horse is not a zebra is not a donkey. A rabbit is not a rat is not a guinea pig.
Everything does not taste like chicken (except for exotic meats, like rattlesnake, that your eccentric buddies want you to try).
Anything that can't possibly be chicken does not taste like beef (except for exotic meats, like zebra, that your eccentric buddies want you to try). If it tastes different it is probably a different protein.
You might want to withhold one unique protein (duck, zebra or alligator?) in case of food allergies.
Good information - thank you. I was aware that freezing meets at 0 degrees was needed to kill parasites, but the previous post about a 2' tape worm certainly will encourage me to be diligent with this! We just purchased a large chest freezer today for the additional "inventory" for the various meats we intend to Falcon's diet.
Will Rambeau Moderator Reg: 01-25-2003
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We've already started raising chickens and plan on adding rabbits in the very near future. IF you could raise a few other animals (no pigs allowed) what would they be? Goats? Sheep? Guinea pigs? We have eight acres, mostly wooded.
Here's how I do it on 5 acres:
Rabbits ( New Zealand Whites ) - best conversion rate between feed to meat ratio. They also get a fair amount of my dried garden scraps, which really keeps down the amount of alfalfa pellets that I buy per year.
Chickens - more for the eggs though, I give a couple of eggs a few times a week.
My next addition will be Dairy Goats, the dogs will get some of the milk and cheese and maybe kid meat, depending on how many kids I get per year.
These are the most cost-effective livestock that I have found in my studies, for feeding both my family and dogs.
( I've also added Bee Hives...but that's just for us two legged creatures )
If you go for geese, get a European breed - the Oriental breeds are the nasty ones.
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