 Re: CGC and the dog aggressive canine impossible?
[Re: Michelle Pociask ]
#248761 - 07/31/2009 06:38 PM |
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Wow one tug and a treat was all I needed. Even when we encountered the local "run to end of the yard and bark challengingly" Golden and Pomeranian duo the focus was on me and the reward after that first tug.
I would say from this post; absolutely NOT impossible!! Nice work.
I wasn't sure from your post if you are walking all your dogs together? Walking together is great but if you are not already doing so I think individual work when working with issues might be helpful......or maybe that's just me and my need to focus.......I lose track when I'm multitasking. 
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Re: CGC and the dog aggressive canine impossible?
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#248771 - 07/31/2009 07:19 PM |
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Yes I think you're right. It's hard to get my kids names' right when correcting them let alone 3 dogs, I usually go through all three names before I get it right.. I could do a mile with each separately.(Yikes I might actually get some exercise.) I work with Gabby in the yard on a lead for Obedience and Chief was trained just basic obedience (Sit, stay, down, heel) when I walked him with my Golden(RIP) and then alone. Oh and I bring a kid with and have them walk Bolt or Gabby separately but I usually end up taking the dog back (into my custody) as they let them get out of control or another dog comes up and I feel the need to take over. My 13 year old son does better than the 11 yr daughter. I have her take Chief.
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Re: CGC and the dog aggressive canine impossible?
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#248774 - 07/31/2009 07:47 PM |
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what I do is work one dog at a time, the other three are in their kennels and I work the forth often out of sight of the others. I got a couple of tricks I need two dogs for but they mastered the task individualy.
When I got Erika as a puppy I made a special room with no windows and nothing in it, no furniture, nothing, which nearly forces the puppy to focus on you and you can teach the fundimentals quickly. I learn that technique at Navy Instructor Training. I figure if it works for nineteen year old kids it ought to work on a puppy.
Later you move it outside slowly increasing the distraction level. What I think I accomplished by doing it this way is I taught the puppy how to learn.
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Re: CGC and the dog aggressive canine impossible?
[Re: Dennis Jones ]
#248775 - 07/31/2009 08:25 PM |
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... When I got Erika as a puppy I made a special room with no windows and nothing in it, no furniture, nothing, which nearly forces the puppy to focus on you and you can teach the fundimentals quickly. I learn that technique at Navy Instructor Training. I figure if it works for nineteen year old kids it ought to work on a puppy.
Later you move it outside slowly increasing the distraction level. What I think I accomplished by doing it this way is I taught the puppy how to learn.
This is brilliant.
I often mention that I start all basic ob commands indoors with zero distractions, but you have taken that such a big step further!
Many people post about problems with the fundamentals, and after a few questions we discover that rather than zero distractions at first and very slowly and gradually adding a change of venue, a distraction, more distraction, another venue, etc., before the show is ever taken on the road, the training was started in a park or a playground. 
I have no idea how a dog learns a command in an unknown language ("human") while also being flooded with exciting movement, smells, other animals, sounds, vehicles ....
You have taken this to a whole 'nother level that I think is pure genius.
I am going to at least think about the most boring room to start in next time, even if I can't create what you did. 
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Re: CGC and the dog aggressive canine impossible?
[Re: Connie Sutherland ]
#248776 - 07/31/2009 08:38 PM |
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... When I got Erika as a puppy I made a special room with no windows and nothing in it, no furniture, nothing, which nearly forces the puppy to focus on you and you can teach the fundimentals quickly. I learn that technique at Navy Instructor Training. I figure if it works for nineteen year old kids it ought to work on a puppy.
Later you move it outside slowly increasing the distraction level. What I think I accomplished by doing it this way is I taught the puppy how to learn.
This is brilliant.
I often mention that I start all basic ob commands indoors with zero distractions, but you have taken that such a big step further!
Many people post about problems with the fundamentals, and after a few questions we discover that rather than zero distractions at first and very slowly and gradually adding a change of venue, a distraction, more distraction, another venue, etc., before the show is ever taken on the road, the training was started in a park or a playground.
I have no idea how a dog learns a command in an unknown language ("human") while also being flooded with exciting movement, smells, other animals, sounds, vehicles ....
You have taken this to a whole 'nother level that I think is pure genius.
I am going to at least think about the most boring room to start in next time, even if I can't create what you did.
I took the utility shed attached to the house, normally used for yard tools, replaced the drywall with plywood and painted white, moved the light switch and electrical receptacles to about eight feet and used old rubber conveyor belting for flooring
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Re: CGC and the dog aggressive canine impossible?
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Re: CGC and the dog aggressive canine impossible?
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#248971 - 08/03/2009 04:20 PM |
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Ugh! As I was at the vet signing for my bill she went devil dog at a gigantic lab, and then barked at a cute little golden puppy. The lab's owner was like "jesus cripes what the *ell. I thought it was mine." "No it was all mine." Nearly gave the poor old guy a heart attack. It's so embarrassing.
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Re: CGC and the dog aggressive canine impossible?
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#248978 - 08/03/2009 05:25 PM |
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Ugh! As I was at the vet signing for my bill she went devil dog at a gigantic lab, and then barked at a cute little golden puppy. The lab's owner was like "jesus cripes what the *ell. I thought it was mine." "No it was all mine." Nearly gave the poor old guy a heart attack. It's so embarrassing.
until you got him wired tight I would not let myself be distracted, what I did with "Max" who had a people issue was to get him to his crate in the van then settle the bill
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Re: CGC and the dog aggressive canine impossible?
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#248982 - 08/03/2009 05:58 PM |
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She wasn't close enough to get the dog, she just emits the devil dog sound. We had a little white dog come up to us on our walk today after we had already succesfully passed the dobermans (two large dobermans 3 foot fence cover's about 3 lots with a garage in between. They follow at the fence barking like true hellhounds but oh are they beautiful.) She didn't even bark then. Anyways on the walk Chief and Bolt sniffed the little Maltese looking dog, then when it came to Gabby she snapped but didn't make contact, it's a warning. But I made her sit there and be nice to it. When I saw her lip curl I would pull the prong and she'd stop. But you're right, I will ask to pay elsewhere like in a room or something or have a kid with me to take her outside next time at the vet.
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