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#250762 - 08/24/2009 03:31 AM |
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I had a client from Moscow and she said wild dogs run there, that ppl carry sticks to beat them, I recommended a cattle prod or taser. She said the feral dogs there actually understand how to take the train places they want to go, LOL. Too bad we can't carry tranquilizer darts.
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 Re: best tool?
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#250765 - 08/24/2009 03:39 AM |
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I went to a stick fighting seminar several years ago and a woman over the age of 60 was able to break cow femurs after the first day of training.
And if you've only "held" an ASP and have never defended yourself with one ( or even practiced on a dummy, for instance ) , try and hold back on giving advice about their use in a serious situation, please.
And you may not want to injure the animal attacking you, but I'd advise any student of mine that you do what it takes to protect *yourself* in a defensive situation, nothing else matters.
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Re: best tool?
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#250767 - 08/24/2009 03:48 AM |
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I guess I'm just too much of a softie, I hate to think about having to injure any animal, but I'm sure it ALL changes when you're actually being attacked and have to defend yourself and your life. It makes sense that the adrenaline would kick in and even a weaker person could be really good with the ASP.
I was envisioning myself swinging with all my might and missing the dog by a second, then being really screwed. If they locked onto your arm, for ex. would you try to hit the head? Practice first if you get the baton
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 Re: best tool?
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#250768 - 08/24/2009 03:48 AM |
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Moscow, like as in Moscow, Idaho?
Heck, they can open carry there and then they have an easy solution to any threatening dog problem..... 
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Re: best tool?
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#250770 - 08/24/2009 03:51 AM |
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Jennifer, your best target would be the front legs of the dog, that would slow them down * a lot*.
The ASP's have various sizes, the largest one pops out to the size of one of the old night sticks.......it's tougher to carry, but it'd be my first choice after a firearm to defend myself against a dog attack.
Hope that helps!
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Re: best tool?
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#250772 - 08/24/2009 04:02 AM |
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Moscow, Russia, she lives at the US Embassy. Do you know if the ASP is legal in all areas? I wonder if I can just walk into a military or police supply store and buy one, I know stun guns are illegal here. We're lucky we can carry pepper spray, but I think even that is regulated as to the percent of capsaicin it contains.
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Re: best tool?
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#250782 - 08/24/2009 08:06 AM |
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I was envisioning myself swinging with all my might and missing the dog by a second, then being really screwed. If they locked onto your arm, for ex.
You're accurately envisioning the mechanics of practical reality.
I've seen young males in a dynamic, off balance, situations accomplish zip. I'm sure under base-line circumstances the blows would have been marginally painful, but the tunnel vision of a fight sometimes filters out certain details...like pain.
It's one of those great theoretical fight stoppers, but in reality, unless you have the space for fulll-body wind-up, follow-through, and the timing to connect in a vulnerable area(not unlike a good hook punch), you're ultimately counting on pain compliance.
Whereas a taser, gun, or even pepper spray works on less voluntary bodily reactions.
On the other hand, it's a lot better than nothing.
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#250794 - 08/24/2009 11:03 AM |
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Gotta envy you guys
We're not allowed - guns, tazers, bear spray, batons, pepper spray.
I have a canister of compressed air as my defense, steel toe-cap boots and a big stick.
Not even allowed to carry a baseball bat unless you have a ball too.
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Re: best tool?
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#250806 - 08/24/2009 02:11 PM |
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Thanks for all the good advice. Well you couldnt pay me to move to the States so thats not an option Im afraid, haha. I will have to look into what is legal to carry here as far as cattle prods, batons, etc. Where would I find these things? I am not overally strong, average sized girl so I dont know how hard my blows would be. I dont want to be caught off guard again, it was a pretty frightening situation, I did all the wrong things, scream for help, try to get away etc. It all happens so fast....
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#250809 - 08/24/2009 02:26 PM |
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Not even allowed to carry a baseball bat unless you have a ball too.
Thats an easy law to get around. Who came up with that one? The blue hair brigade?
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