Jo Harker wrote 09/27/2009 09:42 AM Re: Lucy's feet***Update! [Re: Jennifer Lee ] #253632 - 09/27/2009 09:42 AM
Jo Harker Webboard User Reg: 10-24-2008 Posts: 921 Loc: Indiana Offline	Just the Provios purchased at the vets. I haven't looked it up on the Internet. The vet is ambivalent of probiotics because some dogs and most cats get diarrhea from probiotics. I suggested because of the milk base, and wanted to try with Lucy. So, there we are. I thought of Miss Nico when I was at the vet and I walked out with a sack full of stuff. Hope your Miss is doing well. ********Proviable DC is the probiotic supplement. Edited by Jo Harker (09/27/2009 09:54 AM) Edit reason: correct name Look! I DO fit in the bag.
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Jasmine Dillon wrote 09/27/2009 11:13 AM Re: Lucy's feet***Update! [Re: Jo Harker ] #253634 - 09/27/2009 11:13 AM
Jasmine Dillon Webboard User Reg: 04-24-2009 Posts: 289 Loc: Colorado Offline	Quote: Jo Harker Her coat was getting that waxy feel, so the doc put her on Ketochlor shampoo 2-3x a week with Resicort Conditioner after every shampoo and the Resicort Conditioner on her feet, armpits, and ear surfaces when she isn't shampooed. Hey Jo, what does the waxy feel to the coat indicate?
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Jo Harker wrote 09/27/2009 11:36 AM Re: Lucy's feet***Update! [Re: Jasmine Dillon ] #253635 - 09/27/2009 11:36 AM
Jo Harker Webboard User Reg: 10-24-2008 Posts: 921 Loc: Indiana Offline	That a yeast outbreak could possibly be occuring. Actually, with Luce, it was more a silky feel to her coat, but about a couple of minutes later, when I rubbed my fingers across my palm, I could feel a waxyness, and the need to rub my palm on my pants to clean it off. Look! I DO fit in the bag.
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Connie Sutherland wrote 09/27/2009 01:07 PM Re: Lucy's feet***Update! [Re: Jo Harker ] #253637 - 09/27/2009 01:07 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	Quote: Jo Harker ... any suggestions, hints, critisms, links, or anecdotes welcome. This is not a criticism in any way. It's a warning to other owners with itchy-dog problems. If anything at all itchy is going on, I check the dog's ears every day. It is so much easier (on us and on the dog) to nip inflammation in the bud than it is to deal with full-on ear infection(s). I feel for you. I have been there with combo bacterial/yeast infections (and they often go hand-in-hand). Yeast overgrowth in dogs is very often (usually, even) secondary to allergies. (It can be secondary to illness and other physical stress too, like overvaccination, bacteria, a lot of antibiotics*, etc. Allergies, however, are a huge trigger.) Bacteria can open the door to yeast and yeast can also open the door to bacteria. * see second post down Edited by Connie Sutherland (12/31/1969 06:00 PM) Edit reason: asterisk
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Connie Sutherland wrote 09/27/2009 01:12 PM Re: Lucy's feet***Update! [Re: Jo Harker ] #253638 - 09/27/2009 01:12 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline
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Connie Sutherland wrote 09/27/2009 01:36 PM Re: Lucy's feet***Update! [Re: Connie Sutherland ] #253640 - 09/27/2009 01:36 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	Antibiotics can change the pH of the gut when they kill off good fauna along with bad. This can actually let the fungus (yeast) take over, with systemic yeast infection as the result. Hasn't this dog been on antibiotics fairly recently? (Or am I thinking of another dog here? :blush A dog who is exhibiting yeast overgrowth on the skin is a good candidate for probiotics, IMO. Here's some yeast info: http://www.old-dog-treats-and-rawhide.com/dog-yeast-infection.html http://www.peteducation.com/article.cfm?c=2+2102&aid=321 Also: The term Probiotics refers to the beneficial bacteria in the digestive tract. These bacteria help to keep the ‘bad’ or unfriendly bacteria in check. They mostly include lactobacilli and bifidobacteria — often called acidophilus and bifidus. These bacteria are thought to produce antimicrobial metabolites, help with the immune system and aid in mucosal conditioning. When certain factors reduce the friendly bacteria (antibiotics, stress, illness, diarrhea), an overgrowth of pathogenic bacteria can result causing digestive upsets and yeast infections. Using probiotics can help keep the friendly bacteria in balance in the digestive tract .... from Lew Olson at http://www.b-naturals.com/newsletter/enzymes-and-probiotics/ Is the skin (armpits, belly) thickening or darkening at all?
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Jennifer Lee wrote 09/27/2009 02:39 PM Re: Lucy's feet***Update! [Re: Connie Sutherland ] #253643 - 09/27/2009 02:39 PM
Jennifer Lee Webboard User Reg: 12-16-2007 Posts: 2851 Loc: oklahoma Offline	Connie, What are your thoughts on using Soy Yogurt for dogs who don't tolerate dairy? I use both probiotic capsules and feed Kefir to Nico daily. I have only ever seen improvement in poop while she was on probiotics. But Im also not a vet! On the other hand, antibiotics can cause some pretty nasty runs IME.
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Connie Sutherland wrote 09/27/2009 02:50 PM Re: Lucy's feet***Update! [Re: Jennifer Lee ] #253645 - 09/27/2009 02:50 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline
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Connie Sutherland wrote 09/27/2009 03:07 PM Re: Lucy's feet***Update! [Re: Connie Sutherland ] #253646 - 09/27/2009 03:07 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	Speaking of tofu, this is a pretty funny set of instructions for giving your dog tofu if you ever run out of meat: http://www.ehow.com/how_2222746_dogs-eat-tofu.html Step 5 is "Make sure the dogs know that’s all you have. Turn your palms outward to show them your hands are empty, giving them the message they can eat the tofu or continue to starve." It ends with "Move back far enough so if the dogs really hate the tofu they cannot bite you in revenge." And back to Lucy .... I don't want to get off-topic with Jo's thread.
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Jo Harker wrote 09/28/2009 05:44 AM Re: Lucy's feet***Update! [Re: Connie Sutherland ] #253693 - 09/28/2009 05:44 AM
Jo Harker Webboard User Reg: 10-24-2008 Posts: 921 Loc: Indiana Offline	Stand back indeed! Yes, Lucy has had Flagyl for Giardia (21 days) in March or April, Cephalaxin for another infection, Cehpalaxin for her feet in August, and now the sulfa for 20 days. So, yes, she has been bombarded with antibiotics. Each time, she did receive probiotics from me, just not with the vets knowledge. She and Hambone scratch more with yogurt or kefir. Can't figure that out, but both can have probiotic powder. Hambone cannot have soy in any form. Lucy, I don't know about. Right now, will be sticking with Proviable DC from the vets. I don't want to introduce anything that is not on her chart at the vets. I want to be able to say I have only used what you have listed. I am disappointed the vet didn't suggest probiotics, but she did agree I could try it, just watch for diarrhea. I will suggest a consult with her derm vet friend. She has been in contact with her this year due to soooo many dogs coming in with allergy reactions that have never been allergic. Bad year. Look! I DO fit in the bag.
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