Re: My Doberman, Logan sharing breakfast with chickens
[Re: steve strom ]
#255126 - 10/21/2009 06:07 AM |
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Thanks everyone, for the great comments.
Lynne, Logan is just over 9 months.
The video was taken a couple months ago.
I have another one with all three chickens this time.
I think it's funnier than the last one.
Logan gets a bit more hands on this time around.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDQZcH9p7o0
Tracy, it is soooo doable with dogs, BUT it takes some work and super close supervision. I see you've got four dogs...I'm curious how you plan on acclimating the dogs to the presence of the chickens.
I suggest introducing the dogs to each chicken one on one, then adding one chicken at a time until each dog is comfortable with the entire flock.
Once you're confident each understands that the chickens are part of the pack, only then would I consider starting the intros over again with as many dogs as you feel comfortable.
I think baby steps are the way to go when we try to go against mother nature.
Steve, Logan's only experience with Turkey's so far was just hearing them in the woods behind the house.
We do have a ton of wild turkeys in my area, but they are most visible in the winter and fall.
A few times (before Logan) I've seen a dozen or so in the front yard during the colder months.
I do think Logan would be a bit standoffish if he saw a flock of that size but I'm not confident he wouldn't at least attempt a few run through's if he came across only a few.
He has however, come across a flock of geese.
I got some video of that too:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luF-yino6vs
I think the straggler was probably injured and couldn't fly.
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Re: My Doberman, Logan sharing breakfast with chickens
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#255127 - 10/21/2009 07:57 AM |
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He is such a cute boy, he seems like a wonderful pup, and very gentle.
Also are those your fishtanks? They are beautiful!
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Re: My Doberman, Logan sharing breakfast with chickens
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#255128 - 10/21/2009 08:37 AM |
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I kinda felt bad for the dog
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Re: My Doberman, Logan sharing breakfast with chickens
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#255181 - 10/21/2009 07:49 PM |
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I thought I was the only one, but yeah, I felt bad for the dog, too. How enjoyable can a meal be when you are constantly worried about others taking it away?
Maybe it's just us, but we have four dogs, and they are fed in four different rooms, we want them to be relaxed when they are eating.
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Re: My Doberman, Logan sharing breakfast with chic
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#255182 - 10/21/2009 07:55 PM |
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I kinda felt bad for the dog
You're not the only one. I'm kind of obsessive, I guess, about my jobs, both of providing food and of protecting each dog's space to eat -- no matter how slowly one eats or how fast another one bolts his food. I don't even allow hovering in front of the slow dog ... the speedy ones have to come into the other room with me until the slow senior lifts his face (and yogurt-covered ear-tips) out of his bowl.
But I suspect that was real proofing for the chicken-work!
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Re: My Doberman, Logan sharing breakfast with chic
[Re: Melissa Hau ]
#255185 - 10/21/2009 09:08 PM |
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He is such a cute boy, he seems like a wonderful pup, and very gentle.
Also are those your fishtanks? They are beautiful!
Yep those are my tanks.....thx but currently they are on the not so beautiful side. Between Logan, the chickens, my son and rescaping my front yard.....this summer has not been good for my tanks.
They'll get some needed attention once the cold weather hits us.
I thought I was the only one, but yeah, I felt bad for the dog, too. How enjoyable can a meal be when you are constantly worried about others taking it away?
Maybe it's just us, but we have four dogs, and they are fed in four different rooms, we want them to be relaxed when they are eating.
I completely sympathize with those of you who feel bad for Logan.
Viewing just these videos might make it seem he eats like this all the time but in fact this only happened three times. These three times were, to me, validation that I had brought under control, Logan's primal urges. As Connie had very accurately guessed
But yes, as funny a side there is to watching these videos, I agree, there is also slight "poor dog" factor for Logan. I shall go apologize to him right now.
Melissa, If I may comment on your feeding in separate rooms, I would worry that you might be setting yourself up for a fight. I mean, you can't control every feeding situation, and if they don't become comfortable eating as a pack how will they learn structure?
Sorry if I'm way off base but that is just my view through this little peephole I have here
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Re: My Doberman, Logan sharing breakfast with chic
[Re: Brian Blanchette ]
#255187 - 10/21/2009 09:52 PM |
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Melissa, If I may comment on your feeding in separate rooms, I would worry that you might be setting yourself up for a fight. I mean, you can't control every feeding situation, and if they don't become comfortable eating as a pack how will they learn structure?
Brian,
Well, I am glad to hear that it only happened three times. I love food, and I would not want people to keep picking at my food when I am eating
As for the feeding situation at my house, we feed twice a day.
My male GSD is fed in the sunroom, my Westie in the living area, my Pekingese mix in the family room, and my female GSD in the kitchen. The rooms are all separated by either a door or a 4-5 ft gate my husband added. Each dog runs into its designated area when food is ready. I guess to them it is just the way of life, 'cuz that's how we've always done it. We open the doors/gates when the dogs are done eating.
If they are given treats, they know not to take each others treats. My three males are all easy going, my female can be bossy but she is not food or toy aggressive. As for fighting over food, it's never happened because they don't have an opportunity to do so.
For my dogs, I am not so much worried about food aggression, maybe I am just paranoid , but I do worry about stress when eating and bloat in my GSDs, my Westie also has a tendency to swallow without chewing, I want to make sure he knows no one is going to take his food, so he will chew and not choke on his food. These are the main reasons why I want them to feel safe and relaxed when they are eating.
BTW, Logan is very cute
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Re: My Doberman, Logan sharing breakfast with chic
[Re: Brian Blanchette ]
#255188 - 10/21/2009 09:55 PM |
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I mean, you can't control every feeding situation ...
But I can.
My policing the kitchen and requiring dogs who have finished eating to leave the room while the slower one eats isn't much different from Melissa's separate rooms. One way or another (many folks use crates), my dogs are going to have complete confidence that what I give them, no other dog can threaten to take away.
I also follow the rule that I think most experienced owners follow of never leaving chewies or other treats out if there is more than one dog. In fact, I don't even leave toys out.
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Re: My Doberman, Logan sharing breakfast with chic
[Re: Connie Sutherland ]
#255345 - 10/23/2009 05:44 PM |
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I respectfully disagree ladies.
Exhibit a.
Do you ever go on vacation without your dogs?
This situation and the like is what makes me lean toward having them eat as a pack.
But, maybe you don't.......I do vaca without them....I miss em but I do, and I know that no matter who I have watch them they won't be doing as diligent a job as myself.
I figure if I can teach them to behave without my constant manipulation, then they have a better chance of success when I can't be with them.
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Re: My Doberman, Logan sharing breakfast with chic
[Re: Brian Blanchette ]
#255346 - 10/23/2009 06:00 PM |
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Yes, I have a dogsitter when I travel. They are shown how to feed my dogs, which is simple and requires nothing more than standing there, then leaving the room with two of them while the slow one finishes.
There's no way that I would allow the slow senior to have his food (that I gave him) threatened by or taken by the younger faster dogs.
There is also no way that I would ever leave food with a pack of dogs, no matter whose pack.
"Letting them eat like a pack" in my house includes policing by the pack leader: me.
"I figure if I can teach them to behave without my constant manipulation, then they have a better chance of success when I can't be with them."
Yes. The bigger faster stronger ones will probably have a pretty good chance of success. And some will probably have a secure eating experience.
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