I think you are right about practicing this. Keira doesn't have the down stay at all - haven't even worked on it (she just turned 6 months). What do you suggest if we have this scenario: door ringing, say command (no bark), she complies, reward and then she starts up again once I go to the door or actually get to open the door. If I reward and she starts up again and we do it all over, will that teach her this is a game of bark/'no bark'/reward?
The reason she was put in the crate was I needed to help my son with something else (couldn't attend to her) and my daughter and her friends were in the kitchen. It was not a punishment. She goes in there when someone can't give her undivided attention.
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I think you are right about practicing this. Keira doesn't have the down stay at all - haven't even worked on it (she just turned 6 months). What do you suggest if we have this scenario: door ringing, say command (no bark), she complies, reward and then she starts up again once I go to the door or actually get to open the door. If I reward and she starts up again and we do it all over, will that teach her this is a game of bark/'no bark'/reward?
The reason she was put in the crate was I needed to help my son with something else (couldn't attend to her) and my daughter and her friends were in the kitchen. It was not a punishment. She goes in there when someone can't give her undivided attention.
I understand about needing to take care of other things, so needed to put her in crate. That is why the prearranged sessions where you can ust focus on training her.
If she stops barking when you tell her to, and you reward; then take her to the door and have her sit beside you while you open the door. If before you get that far, she barks again, treat it just like if she hadn't stopped. Take her to a spot for a down stay.
If she doesn't down on command, you can do a sit stay; but I think it would be a very good idea to teach the down. I usually teach the sit and down within the first week I have the pup. Starting as early as 7 wks. The stay, I begin working on at feeding time, as well as reinforcing the sit or down then. So I'm not use to seeing a 6 month old that doesn't know the down. Train the down at other times than the barking sessions. You don't want to introduce too many things at one tiome. The barking sessions should be about not barking, not learning a new command.
I guess I'm keying in on the "stay" part. Yes, she knows sit and down and, yes, I work on those at feeding time, as well as many other occasions. I've just never worked on a "stay" command (ie. "down" and then the command "stay" while I walk away or something and she doesn't follow).
Anyhow, this isn't really about stay/sit/down, it's about dealing with barking!
What I think I'm hearing you say is if she starts barking again, go back to original spot and start over until she gets the idea that no barking means no more barking here or at the door or even on our way to the door.
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Yes, doing things prcisely as I've laid out is less important than that you choose a consistant, controlled response; and practice.
As for the down and stay or sit and stay; I didn't mean for you to walk away. You should sit in a cair or couch with the dog right in front of you or beside you and keep her from leaving. A leash is helpful. It is not to be a down-stay or sit-stay, as in competitions. Nor need the dog be perfectly still. It is more a wait-in-this-place-with-me, until the dog is calm and settled.
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