Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005
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My definition of success is very different from "not killing each other."
And this would never happen on my watch: "One is more dominant and the other excepts it."
No overt posturing, no dominating another pack member, no submission to another canine pack member required. Recipe for disaster, even if it didn't clearly demonstrate to both dogs that the pack leadership role has been taken by the "dominant" dog and not the human.
I hope it does end up a success.
But decades into a life with dogs, I whole-heartedly agree with Ed. Nothing in the O.P. has altered my POV.
They are 1 1/2 (or 2 1/2 depends on the post you read) years into a lifetime that will last about another 11 or 12 years. If one is dominant, there will be scraps between them- it could be over a bone or toy, or one bites the other too hard while playing... it doesn't take much for a dominated bitch to blow and start a fight.
You need stronger pack structure so there is no "dominant" dog- just YOU as pack leader. You need to watch for signs of dominance and stop them immediately. Will's right- you have one happy dog and the other is being pushed around.
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Yes, they are probably more unruly, harder to walk, etc.
You did not understand the article if this means you have been successful. One reason raising littermates is not recommended is because it's hard to train them both and give them both the attention they need. Your quote that they are unruly and hard to walk tells me that they have not been trained to the degree that they would have been had you only gotten one pup....
you're all jackasses. you really shouldn't be allowed to offer advice on pet ownership. Bunch of drama queens. By dominant, I only mean you can tell one prefers to be the leader and the other the follower. Not that one hold the other one down until she pisses herself. Give me a break. To anyone who may be coming here for advice, DON'T! they're idiots.
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005
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One is dominant and the other excepts (accepts) it .... your words.
The success I speak of, is that they have not killed each other .... your words.
Yes, they are probably more unruly, harder to walk ....your words.
Not a definition of success in any responsible dog owner's mind.
Your posts back up Ed's recommendations the way no hypothetical examples can.
As Kelly posted:
"You did not understand the article if this means you have been successful. One reason raising littermates is not recommended is because it's hard to train them both and give them both the attention they need. Your quote that they are unruly and hard to walk tells me that they have not been trained to the degree that they would have been had you only gotten one pup...."
Also:
"One is more dominant and the other excepts it."
"Yeah, until she doesn't."
There is nothing "drama-queen" about the fact that this is a common background when an owner is shocked by the first (often serious -- or worse) dog fight between two dogs like these. "One accepts it .... until she doesn't."
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