 Re: Tasha's first raw dinner!
[Re: Lauren Jeffery ]
#264949 - 02/10/2010 04:01 PM |
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Some produce in the diet is a good thing.
That produce will have to be broken down in some way before the dog's stomach can do much with it. Running it through a blender, freezing it, cooking it, etc. Something to "pre-digest" it, like would be found in a whole prey's stomach. All of the above are options.
Another option that I like is baby food. It is thoroughly pulverized, easy to store and use, and is fairly cheap. Plus I don't have to put any work into making a veggie blend.:wink:
Then there is green tripe. It is the multiple stomach chambers of ruminants. There will be pre-digested vegetable matter on it, in its most natural form that a dog could get it. Straight from the stomach of a prey animal.
There really isn't much good reason for a dog to eat grass out of the yard. What exactly did your breeder say about eating grass?
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Re: Tasha's first raw dinner!
[Re: Lauren Jeffery ]
#264951 - 02/10/2010 04:11 PM |
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She doesn't need veggies but if she likes them they won't hurt. Just be sure to pulverize them as dogs can't digest the outer cellulose layer. Or, an alternative that I use is to just give a bit of baby food veggies.
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Re: Tasha's first raw dinner!
[Re: Michael_Wise ]
#264953 - 02/10/2010 04:34 PM |
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There really isn't much good reason for a dog to eat grass out of the yard. What exactly did your breeder say about eating grass?
I think what she said was in the context of how dogs will graze a little to get an extra bit of roughage when they have a stomach upset or need some extra help digesting.
I was sure that this isn't a very important thing. I just wasn't sure if I need to give her some veg to make up for the fact that she doesn't really have any opportunity. If we are near grass we are usually a the park training or playing with a ball.
Keeping some baby food around sounds good to me. I like it, too!
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Re: Tasha's first raw dinner!
[Re: Lauren Jeffery ]
#264956 - 02/10/2010 05:27 PM |
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Grass eating is usually done out of frustration from a painful, upset stomach.
It isn't necessarily a dog "medicating" an upset stomach.
Sometimes it does seem to be of benefit when it makes them go ahead and poop, or vomit up something that is upsetting their stomach.
Still, a majority of the time the dog only ends up with huge, indigestible mass of grass in it's stomach that is probably going to irritate things more than they already are.
There are better ways to deal with an upset stomach, I'm sure.:smile:
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Re: Tasha's first raw dinner!
[Re: Michael_Wise ]
#264991 - 02/11/2010 05:58 AM |
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Ok, another question.
How much?
I'm not sure if I should be figuring it out based on a puppy or an adult dog. With the kibble I stopped feeding her the recommended puppy portions when she was about 8 months old because she started getting chubby. I used the guideline for a very active or working adult and her weight balanced out beautifully. Should I still use that guideline with raw?
I had her spay done really young because she was showing signs of going into season early and I didn't want to take any chances. I'm not sure if that matters.
Oh, and the veggie glop was a huge hit. I had a lot of fun making it! I basically cleaned out the freezer, steamed everything lightly and threw it in the blender. I had an overripe pear in the fridge and so I added that in, too.
I tried it, it tasted really good!
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Re: Tasha's first raw dinner!
[Re: Lauren Jeffery ]
#264992 - 02/11/2010 06:16 AM |
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Oh, I forgot to add her weigh and age.
She's a big girl! Just under 70 pounds and 11 months old as of yesterday.
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Re: Tasha's first raw dinner!
[Re: Lauren Jeffery ]
#265004 - 02/11/2010 09:07 AM |
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A good place to start on figuring meal sizes is to calculate 2-3% of the dog's ideal adult weight. That would be the total weight of food per day.
Let's assume for the math in this example that 80 pounds will be her ultimate adult weight?
80 x 16 (ounces) = 1280 ounces of dog.
2% = 25.6 ounces
3% = 38.4 ounces
So--somewhere around 2 pounds (32 ounces) of food a day would get you in the ballpark. Then you just have to monitor her weight and physique. Some dogs need more (higher activity and metabolism), couch potatoes need less.
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Re: Tasha's first raw dinner!
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#265010 - 02/11/2010 09:40 AM |
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That makes sense, thank you.
I think she is probably headed for 80 pounds. She's pretty active, too.
I have a feeling that this diet will probably make her even MORE active. She had a serious case of the zoomies at the park this morning, in a way that I haven't seen in months. She caught the ball and proceeded to run happily at full speed in a wide circle for like 5 minutes!
I better get back to training for marathons. 
As of today she is still not really eating much, but I bet within a week she'll be back to scarfing. I'll try out the two pounds a day as a guideline and see how she does.
Another nice update is that her eyes are clearing up, she's not itching and the shedding has already decreased. YAY!
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Re: Tasha's first raw dinner!
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#265014 - 02/11/2010 10:07 AM |
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Then you just have to monitor her weight and physique.
that's a really important point right there. My dogs are at opposite side of the spectrum for food. My GSD is 85lbs and my boxer is 67lbs, they both eat almost the same quantity.
The boxer is more of a couch dog, and even outside trots around me but rarely does he go full speed for a long. My GSD gets around 1h30 hour of intense exercise and training each day.
yet, the GSD packs up pounds if I give him just a few ounces more. The boxer stays on the ribs year long and god can he eat.
So for me, the percentage are really just a starting point.
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Re: Tasha's first raw dinner!
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#265296 - 02/15/2010 08:47 AM |
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Another question.
When it comes to digestive enzyme supplements is it possible to give them too much?
I've been giving the daily dose of enzyme with her evening meal. When Tasha has the enzyme with her meal in the evening she is fine. But after her morning meal without it she vomits.
Would it be ok to double up for a while?
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