 Re: Anatolian with dog aggression issues
[Re: randy allen ]
#267756 - 03/05/2010 11:04 PM |
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Wait wait,
Didn't I read some place about goats or some other herd or another?
I thought that too, but I think it was Willie's goats (previous thread).
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Re: Anatolian with dog aggression issues
[Re: Sonya Anderson ]
#267757 - 03/05/2010 11:07 PM |
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If the Anatolian has to be separated from my other males for life I will deal with that. In my heart I realize they probably won't ever mix, the Anatolian is incredibly powerful and I don't think I will ever trust these dogs together.
I bought the remote collar to at least try to curb the x-pen aggression. I want them to be able to be in the same room so we can all share family time without the fence fighting (which honestly scares the heck out of me, if those dogs get into it the Aussie will be dead and I won't be able to stop it)..
"Family time" is as unlikely as any other peaceful interaction between the males, don't you think?
"Separated" for me doesn't mean x-pens in the same room. "Separated" means that the dogs do not live with anxiety, fear, or any of the rest of what your senior dogs and the new one are living with if they are close enough to be fence-fighting in x-pens.
You don't have crates? Kennels?
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Re: Anatolian with dog aggression issues
[Re: Sonya Anderson ]
#267758 - 03/05/2010 11:11 PM |
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I could not send this pup back to live in pasture with sheep, he would be lonely after having lived in a household with a lot of attention.
Sonya, you are putting human emotions on an animal which has been bred for centuries to guard flocks of animals... How is your Aussie going to feel WHEN, not IF, but when this other dog gets hold of him?
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Re: Anatolian with dog aggression issues
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#267759 - 03/05/2010 11:11 PM |
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The pups are 10 weeks old. The mother has been here the same amount of time. I actually built a website to advertise the pups online and thought it might benefit other rescues (what a waste of time). I am going to run a regular ad with my phone number (God I shudder at that, I hate interviewing prospective homes and hearing their horrid stories). I will keep the mother dog, she is a sweet thing and everyone loves her.
Anyways, what freaked me out the most was the story from one local rescue lady (the ONE lady that was actually nice). She told me she had a rescue litter born into foster care and ended up euthanizing 3 of the pups at 7 months because she could not find homes (she kept 3, and adopted some out). God I didn't think that sort of thing could happen, rescue pups born in foster care and euthanized due to lack of homes. : (
Pix and website are here, the pix are older, I built that site in an attempt to find these little guys good homes: http://www.grayanimalrescue.org/articles/jules.html
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Re: Anatolian with dog aggression issues
[Re: Barbara Schuler ]
#267760 - 03/05/2010 11:15 PM |
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... Sonya, you are putting human emotions on an animal which has been bred for centuries to guard flocks of animals... How is your Aussie going to feel WHEN, not IF, but when this other dog gets hold of him?
I have much the same view of this, for all these dogs.
The stress for the Aussie and the Spaniel of living with the threat of the new dog is nothing to be viewed lightly, either.
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Re: Anatolian with dog aggression issues
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#267761 - 03/05/2010 11:16 PM |
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I just can't imagine the situation this dog is in currently being better than having a working dog out in the field doing what every shred of it's instinct is telling it to do.
Post after post talks about these strong instincts, yet it would be happier in an x-pen, under 24 hour supervision, around a pack it hates?
Not trying to be mean, just realistic.
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Re: Anatolian with dog aggression issues
[Re: Barbara Schuler ]
#267762 - 03/05/2010 11:19 PM |
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Sonya, you are putting human emotions on an animal which has been bred for centuries to guard flocks of animals... How is your Aussie going to feel WHEN, not IF, but when this other dog gets hold of him?
One of the basic rules when raising LSG dogs intended for work in the field is do NOT treat them as pets, do not keep them in or around the house. Isolate them with the sheep (or whatever they are intended to guard). If they bond with the humans or the house they will prefer that to the flocks.
This dog has now bonded to a human and house. They are pack animals and they DO bond, they do form attachments (regardless of my current emotional state).
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Re: Anatolian with dog aggression issues
[Re: Sonya Anderson ]
#267764 - 03/05/2010 11:22 PM |
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... One of the basic rules when raising LSG dogs intended for work in the field is do NOT treat them as pets, do not keep them in or around the house. Isolate them with the sheep (or whatever they are intended to guard). If they bond with the humans or the house they will prefer that to the flocks.
This dog has now bonded to a human and house. They are pack animals and they DO bond, they do form attachments (regardless of my current emotional state).
Regardless, you have other dogs who need not to be subjected to this. Don't you agree that they shouldn't be paying for this mistake?
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Re: Anatolian with dog aggression issues
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#267766 - 03/05/2010 11:26 PM |
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Post after post talks about these strong instincts, yet it would be happier in an x-pen, under 24 hour supervision, around a pack it hates?
Oh the Anatolian is fine. He has two bitches to entertain him (the stray mama dog, Jules, whom he loves, and me). He seems amazingly content and he settled in very quickly. I was very surprised a dog that was used to running all day in open fields could suddenly be fine sleeping most of the day (with occasional breaks to taunt/play with either me or Jules). He loves the car rides, he loves the occasional visitor, he is doing just fine.
If I could strike a balance, if I could get him to NOT threaten the other two dogs when penned, it would be fine. The Cocker is oblivious regardless, he is older and doesn't even notice the barking/growling, the Aussie does notice and has antagonized the Anatolian subtly from day one.
I work from home, these dogs could all have a fair amount of family time if only they could share the same space (while separated via x-pen).
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Re: Anatolian with dog aggression issues
[Re: Sonya Anderson ]
#267770 - 03/05/2010 11:30 PM |
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You don't have crates or kennels?
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